Originally posted by SurturOf course he has -- pretty much every comic book character has at some point, tbh. If we look at Lobo's appearances as a whole, however, I'd say that him being legitimately KO'd by physical means is the exception; not the rule.
Lobo does have an insane healing factor, he can come back from a pile of goo. Though I think he has been rendered unconscious in the past.
Aside from that, this thread emphasizes Lobo when he had to ability to clone... So I am assuming all of the other toon-forcey abilities he regularly used back then are in play as well. /shrug
Originally posted by bluewaterriderGiven that Lobo can still function without a head, I would certainly tend to think that his HF makes him much *harder* to KO if nothing else.
So the premise is that a healing factor prevents a knockout now?
I mean, the guy --along with each of his clones-- can fully regenerate from a pool of blood/goo within a matter of seconds, ffs:
srug
Originally posted by Galan007
Of course he has -- pretty much every comic book character has at some point, tbh. If we look at Lobo's appearances as a whole, however, I'd say that him being legitimately KO'd by physical means is the exception; not the rule.Aside from that, this thread emphasizes Lobo when he had to ability to clone... So I am assuming all of the other toon-forcey abilities he regularly used back then are in play as well.
Given that Lobo can still function without a head, I would certainly tend to think that his HF makes him much *harder* to KO if nothing else.
Only the original poster of this thread can clarify the sum of what he thinks Lobo's powers are here. Personally, I hope he does.
Functioning without a head is something I've seen Sabretooth do. If memory serves, Creed's history has been retconned such that Wolverine saw him do that in one of his first encounters. But I don't think anyone would argue Sabretooth can't be knocked out because of such a hax healing factor, and I think fewer still would argue Hulk couldn't do it.
And the presumed fact of Lobo rarely being knocked out holds little sway here.
He's doesn't face World War Hulk caliber opposition in most of his fights, either.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider👆
Only the original poster of this thread can clarify the sum of what he thinks Lobo's powers are here. Personally, I hope he does.
Originally posted by bluewaterriderThat is a matter of opinion, I suppose.
He's doesn't face World War Hulk caliber opposition in most of his fights, either.
Originally posted by bluewaterriderSentry is problematic and in a class by himself ... For starters, one major point made even in the WWH arc is that Sentry has a CALMING effect on Hulk. In other words, he can take AWAY much of the rage that empowers a character basically fueled by rage. He'd be a bad model for how a Lobo/WWH fight would go based on that alone.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
😕Did you really just post Reed Richards PRETENDING to be Sentry and Reed's ruse failing and PROOF it was only Reed Richards PRETENDING to be Sentry in the last scan you gave above and Reed's ruse/impersonation failing... as "proof" that the real Sentry himself with Sentry's powers would fail if SENTRY were actually seeking to calm Hulk?!?
So, like I originally said, Sentry did not use all of his powers, and fought like a brawler, taunting Hulk.
As you yourself admit, had Sentry done so, he would have calmed Hulk down.
Which was my point. We have seen what happens when a character forgets his powers, and brawls and taunts. And his name is the Sentry.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
So the premise is that a healing factor prevents a knockout now?Perhaps you're forgetting that Red Hulk himself had a healing factor strong enough to withstand impalement through his chest with a big sword, and having his eyes slashed by Wolverine?
But even Wolverine's level of healing factor doesn't help him against thunderclaps. And it certainly doesn't prevent him from being knocked when someone exceeds his pain threshold:
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Perhaps you don't know the level of Lobo's HF.
Impalement? Slashed eyes? Oh my.
Here, Lobo regenerates from a finger, in a toilet:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Lobo/loboregen12.jpg
Here, he fights as a skeleton:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Lobo/loboregen7.jpg
Having his brain blown up:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Lobo/loboregen18.jpg
Plus, Galan's scans.
Note the dialogue. Lobo has regenerated from a single drop of blood:
Sabretooth does not have such a HF. Nor does Wolverine. Nor does Rulk.
The rest of that fight:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/99065/3419065-2145493029-34086.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/133524/2763791-2763211-78894_original_super.jpg
So whilst he's just healed, he's already strong enough to pull stellar mass out of the sky.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Indeed. And I must say that Jane Thor is a virtual vampire in terms of how willing she is to shed blood or even use lethal force on her opponents.
Jane Thor I could see creating all those clones you're talking about in the Lobo versus WWH thread. World War Hulk himself, though? I just don't see it.
Just addressing this.
Here is WWH against Herc:
https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/incrediblehulk107-024.jpg
Here is WWH against Sentry:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh020.jpg
Here is WWH against Wolverine:
https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/world_war_hulk_-_x-men_002_019.jpg
Here is WWH vs Black Bolt:
https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/16.jpg
He does it plenty of times.
Lobo is a strange character, I've read some old lobo own series where he would have ridiculous toon force, he was haxx enough to fight the mask in a crossover
But when he is not in his own series and go up against JLA and other heroes, his powerlevel takes a dive, high heralds can give him good fight
as for this thread Lobo would beat hulk even without the cloning ability
However I'm not really familiar with his cloning ability which story did he do that?
and isn't one of the pic you guys shown slobo the kid?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Just addressing this.Here is WWH against Herc:
https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/incrediblehulk107-024.jpgHere is WWH against Sentry:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh020.jpgHere is WWH against Wolverine:
https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/world_war_hulk_-_x-men_002_019.jpgHere is WWH vs Black Bolt:
https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/16.jpgHe does it plenty of times.
That's not black bolt