Liberals are great!

Originally posted by Scribble
I can understand that. I suppose we'll see, but he isn't off to a good start, imo. I hope you'll be willing to hold him to account when needed. People really need to start doing that more often imo, both left and right.

When he truly does something bad I think people will. But I feel at least for the first few weeks people will be in a "wait and see" mode.

In some ways I find his ego can sometimes be a good thing because I don't think he could handle not doing *any* of his promises.

Originally posted by Robtard
This is another attempt at mitigating blame, like your "mistake" comment towards our mortgage rates, it wasn't a mistake like getting someone a turkey sandwich when they asked or ham, it was deliberate. He's not "drained the swamp" as he claimed, he literally went on TV and said after the fact that it was just some fancy sounding thing and he had no intention. He's literally told you he lied and your stances is still "oh, we have to wait and see". Do you honestly not see the ridiculousness of it?

I didn't say he did it accidentally. I said it was a mistake. It was wrong.

So yes, my stance is indeed "wait and see" because nothing has actually happened yet. It's day frickin 4.

But I just love how even when I agree he did something wrong..if I don't choose the right words, you b*tch about it, and yet you always call me out for complaining?

Originally posted by Surtur
I didn't say he did it accidentally. I said it was a mistake. It was wrong.

So yes, my stance is indeed "wait and see" because nothing has actually happened yet. It's day frickin 4.

But I just love how even when I agree he did something wrong..if I don't choose the right words, you b*tch about it, and yet you always call me out for complaining?

Yet Trump literally went back on his word regarding "draining the swamp". It has happened, he's made his appointments. He literally told us he was bullshitting regarding the matter. What more do you need?

So when's Hillary going to jail?

Originally posted by Robtard
Yet Trump literally went back on his word regarding "draining the swamp". It has happened, he's made his appointments. He literally told us he was bullshitting regarding the matter. What more do you need?

Hey, be serious for a moment because I have a question.

What did "draining the swamp" mean?

Did he mean removing the career politicians from DC? That's what I thought he meant.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Hey, be serious for a moment because I have a question.

What did "draining the swamp" mean?

Did he mean removing the career politicians from DC? That's what I thought he meant.

I took it to mean "remove corruption and conflicts of interest."

Originally posted by dadudemon
Hey, be serious for a moment because I have a question.

What did "draining the swamp" mean?

Did he mean removing the career politicians from DC? That's what I thought he meant.

Originally posted by BackFire
I took it to mean "remove corruption and conflicts of interest."

Is that the actual quote? If so, yeah, that's a pretty damming statement.

Originally posted by Scribble
Yeah, but also in his inauguration speech he said he was taking the power back and giving it to the people, with a bunch of bankers sitting in the VIP seats. So it all fits into that same kind of category of dishonesty.

Seems like something Palpatine would do.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Seems like something Palpatine would do.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Hey, be serious for a moment because I have a question.

What did "draining the swamp" mean?

Did he mean removing the career politicians from DC? That's what I thought he meant.

For one, not hiring Goldman Sach's bankers who in Trump's own words 'robbed our working class'. iirc, his team now has five Goldman people. Corruption, nepotism etc,

But I can see where in the revisionist world we're moving to, 'drain the swamp' can mean whatever it needs to be, in a fluid-like manner.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Is that the actual quote? If so, yeah, that's a pretty damming statement.

Seems like something Palpatine would do.

No, it's not a quote. That's just my interpretation of what "drain the swamp" meant.

Originally posted by Robtard
But I can see where in the revisionist world we're moving to, 'drain the swamp' can mean whatever it needs to be, in a fluid-like manner.

I gave up on trying to understand what it means. Seems every one of us has a slightly different definition with Robtard's being the most...broad?

Anyway, I found this:

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-does-drain-the-swamp-mean-was-dc-built-on-a-swamp-2016-11

"Back when malaria was a problem in the US and Europe, draining swamps was an effective way to kill the mosquitoes that bred there and spread the disease."

And it was used by Reagan to talk about getting rid of excessive spending in DC (earmarks, pork barrel...what have you). It was "wasteful government spending."

So was this what Trump was talking about? This is different than ALL of our definitions and Trump is old enough to have heard and understood the original use.

It's all academic at this point. I doubt Trump even really knew what it specifically meant. Probably just thought it sounded good.

Originally posted by BackFire
It's all academic at this point. I doubt Trump even really knew what it specifically meant. Probably just thought it sounded good.

Originally posted by BackFire
I can't speak for Stigma's intention for making that thread and then creating a sub-title that says the opposite.

No worries, I can count on you if a correction in the title is needed. 🙂

Originally posted by dadudemon
I gave up on trying to understand what it means. Seems every one of us has a slightly different definition with Robtard's being the most...broad?

Anyway, I found this:

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-does-drain-the-swamp-mean-was-dc-built-on-a-swamp-2016-11

"Back when malaria was a problem in the US and Europe, draining swamps was an effective way to kill the mosquitoes that bred there and spread the disease."

And it was used by Reagan to talk about getting rid of excessive spending in DC (earmarks, pork barrel...what have you). It was "wasteful government spending."

So was this what Trump was talking about? This is different than ALL of our definitions and Trump is old enough to have heard and understood the original use.

Originally posted by Stigma
Actually my fingers slipped when I was writing the title and I needed to clarify it in the op./ shrug

No worries, I can count on you if a correction in the title is needed. 🙂

Indeed you can. Do you want me to change the title to something else?

Originally posted by BackFire
Indeed you can. Do you want me to change the title to something else?

I think the sarcasm of that title is self-explanatory.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I gave up on trying to understand what it means. Seems every one of us has a slightly different definition with Robtard's being the most...broad?

Anyway, I found this:

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-does-drain-the-swamp-mean-was-dc-built-on-a-swamp-2016-11

"Back when malaria was a problem in the US and Europe, draining swamps was an effective way to kill the mosquitoes that bred there and spread the disease."

And it was used by Reagan to talk about getting rid of excessive spending in DC (earmarks, pork barrel...what have you). It was "wasteful government spending."

So was this what Trump was talking about? This is different than ALL of our definitions and Trump is old enough to have heard and understood the original use.

For me it meant getting rid of the scourge of lobbyists influencing politicians with donations and back handers. I suppose he's succeeded as he cut out the middle man and just put the lobbyists straight into his cabinet.