Originally posted by bluewaterriderShe better worry about his fists up side her head. Gladiator does not care if she's male or female. He hits the same.
Without heat vision or ice breath to worry about, Wonder Woman should take this; either quickly with a vital area or pressure point strike, or in a slightly longer match as Glads' confidence wanes when he finds himself not being able to put down a mere female despite using his best tactics.
Not seeing it.
I'm thinking of
1. Gladiator versus Rogue
2. Gladiator versus Tarene
3. Gladiator versus Hulk
4. Superman versus Wonder Woman in WW #219
and
5. Gladiator versus Cannonball.
#s 1,2, and 5 tell me Gladiator is susceptible to people far below Diana's strength level, unless Tarene is a whole lot stronger than I'm giving her credit for (which MIGHT be the case, though I've never seen much in the way of strength feats for her).
#5 tells me Gladiator's confidence WILL drop if he tries and fails to outmuscle an opponent he underestimates.
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#4 tells me Diana can take a punch harder than anything I've ever seen Gladiator deliver
#4 also tells me Diana can deliver a wicked clap to the ears
#3 tells me such an attack would drop Gladiator even in THIN air; Wonder Woman doing such a maneuver on the ground should/would be "Game Over".
Not commenting on who wins this but...
Gladiator never fought Rogue.
What happened with Tarene? I thought that was more of a sneak attack on her end. Also, let's not forget about the power description that was said after this attack and how long it took Gladiator to recover from said attack.
It's Hulk. It's like calling the Avengers weak because Hulk has soloed them.
Good fight between Supes and Diana. She's a peer.
Gladiator toyed with Cannonball that entire fight. Gladiator decided to end it by punching him into the heart of the sun and Cannonball absorbed said punch and redirected that same power. Gladiator got up right after that attack. Not understanding why you brought that fight up.
Also, Gladiator confidence NEVER drops when he is fighting a peer. It drops when he knows that a weakling withstanding his attacks shouldn't happen. Example, the only time his confidence dropped was when Reed stood in one spot and tanked his attacks (due to Cap invisible shield) and Cannonball withstanding his attacks. People that he is far above. Please tell me of a time it dropped when he fought a peer?
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Seems to have dropped a bit here, assuming, that is, that Glads was really telling the truth about being immovable...
Alternate Gladiator and please post the rest of that fight. It was an even tussle and Thor was amped by Reed. Reed increased all of their speed to hyper speed and Gladiator was still able to pull a stalemate against Thor even though Thor was amped by speed and again, thats an alternate Gladiator since they had to go to the future.
Originally posted by golem370
He also lost to Masterson Thor and that when Eric was a rookie or full of self doubt.
He crushed Masterson Thor though. After having Masterson on the ground, he stood above him laughing (cocky). Masterson then see living lightning flying by and controlled living lightning using him to strike Gladiator from behind stunning him. Masterson then took advantage of an opportunity and started pounding on him.
Originally posted by carver9
Not commenting on who wins this but...Gladiator never fought Rogue.
You may be right, as far as the comics go.
Rogue versus Gladiator was shown on the old X-Men cartoon of the 1990s, appearing during the saga of the Shiar versus Phoenix arc(s).
It was a re-telling of the original Shiar versus Phoenix arc of the 1980s, where Gladiator fought Colossus in Rogue's place. The action and setup and resolution of the fight is nearly identical in either case; my mind must have made the switch because it's been so long.
None of that really matters, though, either episode features a Marvel hero far weaker in strength than Diana herself. Even so, said Marvel hero is NEARLY able to score a win against Gladiator; at least to the point where the narrator tells us the outcome is in doubt and that freeing himself from the rubble of a building collapsed on the light gravity of the moon, made a significant tactical consideration in the fights in this arc, is "painful" for Glads.
Originally posted by carver9
He crushed Masterson Thor though. After having Masterson on the ground, he stood above him laughing (cocky). Masterson then see living lightning flying by and controlled living lightning using him to strike Gladiator from behind stunning him. Masterson then took advantage of an opportunity and started pounding on him.
Here is the entire fight...
Masterson got crushed in this fight and only gained the advantage here, when he controlled living lightning. He even tells us it feels like every bone in his body was broken. If Gladiator pressed his attack, Masterson would've died...
Originally posted by carver9
He crushed Masterson Thor though. After having Masterson on the ground, he stood above him laughing (cocky). Masterson then see living lightning flying by and controlled living lightning using him to strike Gladiator from behind stunning him. Masterson then took advantage of an opportunity and started pounding on him.
If he did the same with Wonder Woman she would also advantage of that lapse in judgement too. In the pic you posted Gladiator tackled Thor from behind.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
http://m.imgur.com/rGC26ih?rYou may be right, as far as the comics go.
Rogue versus Gladiator was shown on the old X-Men cartoon of the 1990s, appearing during the saga of the Shiar versus Phoenix arc(s).
It was a re-telling of the original Shiar versus Phoenix arc of the 1980s, where Gladiator fought Colossus in Rogue's place. The action and setup and resolution of the fight is nearly identical in either case; my mind must have made the switch because it's been so long.None of that really matters, though, either episode features a Marvel hero far weaker in strength than Diana herself. Even so, said Marvel hero is NEARLY able to score a win against Gladiator; at least to the point where the narrator tells us the outcome is in doubt and that freeing himself from the rubble of a building collapsed on the light gravity of the moon, made a significant tactical consideration in the fights in this arc, is "painful" for Glads.
I'm not rooting for anyone here. I just wanted to point out that the examples you used above wasn't legit, especially him losing confidence. You keep bringing up his wins or him dominating opponents as evidence...to try and downplay the character. I'm sure if I posted Diana fight against Deathstroke you wouldn't be happy about it or her being shot through by bullets. Please be fair here. The winner, I don't mind, but let's at least be honest about Gladiator showings.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Seems to have dropped a bit here, assuming, that is, that Glads was really telling the truth about being immovable...
Originally posted by golem370
He also lost to Masterson Thor and that when Eric was a rookie or full of self doubt.