Trump tricked us
Latest news is that Trump wants to have open borders and allow all mexican people in. Take all unvetted refugees regardless if they are extremists or not. He also showed support for abortion at any age just so that damn kid won't phuck up a woman's personal life. He's signing a bill to allow unlimited welfare for all. He's also for sentence reductions for murderers and pedos...after all its societies fault after all. Given this 180 turn how do you guys feel about him now?
Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]I also hear he has made it so women can now be drafted.So YAY FOR EQUAL RIGHTS!
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I personally love how this was done at a point in our history where we are unlikely to have a draft again. Do you think the feminists of the 1960s demanded to be able to fight in Vietnam?
I'll leave you to work it out. But here's a clue:
http://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/vietnam-war-protests
Originally posted by Beniboybling
I'll leave you to work it out. But here's a clue:http://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/vietnam-war-protests
Okay, so you're unintelligent and yet call others stupid? Okie dokie.
Did I ask about Vietnam protests? Did I ask if they thought the war was just? Nope, just wondered if(in their cries for equality) they wanted true equality all across the board, like the chance to be drafted into war. That does not mean they would have wanted to fight, I am asking if they wanted that much equality.
We could phrase it another way if you want: did they demand the right to be drafted, so they could burn their draft cards in protest with all the men who were doing so?
I said your question was stupid darling, but I am starting to think you are too.
You can't separate the draft from participation in the war, they happen to be intrinsically linked. So why on earth would feminists demand to be signed up to fight in the Vietnam War, that they flagrantly opposed, so they can protest against being signed up for it?
But yes Surtur you are right, if they were real feminists they would have show solidarity and added themselves to the body count, like proper egalitarians.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
I said your question was stupid darling, but I am starting to think you are too.You can't separate the draft from participation in the war, they happen to be intrinsically linked. So why on earth would feminists demand to be signed up to fight in the Vietnam War, that they flagrantly opposed, so they can protest against being signed up for it?
But yes Surtur you are right, if they were real feminists they would have show solidarity and added themselves to the body count, like proper egalitarians.
We can separate the topics though. I just did. Boom, separated. We aren't talking about protests. We're talking about the demands for equality.
Or did you just mean they wanted equality only when it benefited them? If you lack the intellectual capacity to separate these things that is fine.
Anyways, giving your attitude I assume you weren't one of the people whining about Trump dodging the draft.
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Let me explain this to you simply Surtur: what feminists demand is equal rights between men and women, not equal treatment. To be drafted into the military without your consent to fight in an immoral war that is not your choosing is not a right, it is oppression, so it would be entirely counterintuitive for a feminist who explictly opposed and protested against that brand of oppression, to also demand it be applied for them in the name of "equality."
On the other hand did feminists demand the right to volunteer to fight for their country? Absolutely. And they got it. So please stop with these nonsense suggestions that by somehow not wanting to be sent into a meat grinder against their will makes them hypocrites.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
facepalmLet me explain this to you simply Surtur: what feminists demand is equal rights between men and women, not equal treatment. To be drafted into the military without your consent to fight in an immoral war that is not your choosing is not a right, it is oppression, so it would be entirely counterintuitive for a feminist who explictly opposed and protested against that brand of oppression, to also demand it be applied for them in the name of "equality."
You used a lot of words in what could essentially be boiled down to "they don't want laws applied equally".