Since the reboot they've gone to great pains to make it clear that physically, he's close to or on Wonder Woman's level. He was already arguably on J'onn's even pre-crisis, so it's not like he's some weakling.
All that said, bar some Namor-esque hijinks, he's not beating any reasonably decent, herald-beating Hulk. Imo, anyway.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Since the reboot they've gone to great pains to make it clear that physically, he's close to or on Wonder Woman's level. He was already arguably on J'onn's even pre-crisis, so it's not like he's some weakling.All that said, bar some Namor-esque hijinks, he's not beating any reasonably decent, herald-beating Hulk. Imo, anyway.
I don't know, Namor has his number underwater.
And he's the joke everyone thinks Arthur is. 😛
Originally posted by -Pr-
Since the reboot they've gone to great pains to make it clear that physically, he's close to or on Wonder Woman's level. He was already arguably on J'onn's even pre-crisis, so it's not like he's some weakling.All that said, bar some Namor-esque hijinks, he's not beating any reasonably decent, herald-beating Hulk. Imo, anyway.
The Trident? =/= Hulk has an intense healing factor
Physicals? Hulk has Aquaman beat in everything outside speed and skill
Telepathy? Hulk has really impressive TP resistance. I'd still argue with the Seizure claim but that's another topic
The only reason I'm arguing here is this is Gravage and nothing has been provided to show he'd beat Arthur in Aquaman's terrain.
Originally posted by cdtm
I don't know, Namor has his number underwater.And he's the joke everyone thinks Arthur is. 😛
😂
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Standard to Upper Hulk makes any of Aquaman's advantages pretty moot in general.The Trident? =/= Hulk has an intense healing factor
Physicals? Hulk has Aquaman beat in everything outside speed and skill
Telepathy? Hulk has really impressive TP resistance. I'd still argue with the Seizure claim but that's another topicThe only reason I'm arguing here is this is Gravage and nothing has been provided to show he'd beat Arthur in Aquaman's terrain.
If I could remember more about Gravage's appearances, assuming I've even read them, I could weigh in better I feel.
Originally posted by carver9
He fought the Avengers that had heavy hitters. That should be a good ft within itself. He also fought, Cap, Ironman, and Thor who was enraged (while Hulk was holding back) and held his own. Was actually blitzing (also, Aquaman isn't faster than Hulk, sorry).
You could be right, but it's you, so I don't believe you.
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Originally posted by carver9
He fought the Avengers that had heavy hitters. That should be a good ft within itself. He also fought, Cap, Ironman, and Thor who was enraged (while Hulk was holding back) and held his own. Was actually blitzing (also, Aquaman isn't faster than Hulk, sorry).
Any incarnation of Aquaman is faster than Hulk atleast consistenty and maybe with the exception of GA.
Originally posted by carver9
What's Aquaman best speed ft?
Post-Flashpoint: Outspeeds a Hypersonic Aircraft, Blitzes Wonder Woman, Blitzes a mind possessed Martian Manhunter, Dodging a speed punch from Superman.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Pre-Flashpoint: Having lightning reflexes, Dodging Lightning, keeping up with Wally when they were off to stop a war, Keeping up with Superman and Wonder Woman when going of to confront a villain.Post-Flashpoint: Outspeeds a Hypersonic Aircraft, Blitzes Wonder Woman, Blitzes a mind possessed Martian Manhunter, Dodging a speed punch from Superman.
Has been said about Hulk (lightning reflexes). Post the lightning showing please. Are you saying Aquaman is close to Flash speed? Are you talking about him swimming keeping up with Superman and Wonder Woman?
Originally posted by carver9
Has been said about Hulk (lightning reflexes). Post the lightning showing please. Are you saying Aquaman is close to Flash speed? Are you talking about him swimming keeping up with Superman and Wonder Woman?
Yes, Aquaman hasn't had it just stated it's been shown.
No I'm not saying Aquaman is close to Flash speed. I'm saying in a JL comic which typically nerf's Wally. Arthur was keeping paste with Wally to go stop a Durlan war.
http://m.imgur.com/a/vPvnu
The bottom instance also shows him charging Amazo before he can react.
Notices a Wally clone's movements in Rock of ages. Who was moving faster than the enhanced human eye could see.
http://m.imgur.com/oap7u7w?r
Dodging Demons Lightning.
http://m.imgur.com/h2Nyhk8
Vs Weather Wizard
http://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111124701/3973287-3420924-aq_lig%2B1.jpg
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In regards to stuff actually relevant to the thread
http://m.imgur.com/5Ga3qVy
Aquaman has deflected lasers with his trident. Street Level characters in comics have reacted to lasers.
Zoom moves through time and he's stated not to be a speedster. He's a time manipulator. I'd argue given Hulk's character he overpowered the guys time control. Regardless when Aquaman was fighting Wonder Woman in Aquaman Annual 2 they were placed in frozen time and still moving.
