Re: Batman vs Kenshiro
Originally posted by Sharivan
Since Batman wins because "he is Batman" this is not a straight up match.How many seconds does Kenshiro last?
Bonus Scenario:
Batman fights every named character in Fist of the North Star at once. How long do they last before Batman crushes them?
Batman dies.
Originally posted by Surtur
Kenshiro is not either of those things, but he can still kill Batman with a single poke of his finger.
The good answer is:
Batman can destroy Iron Fist very easily with a Dim Mak touch because he is more skilled than him and tactically superior.
Kenshiro would destroy Iron Fist effortlessly while taking a nap between two attacks. Iron Fist can't even hope to scratch Kenshiro's clothes.
Originally posted by Surtur
He shrugs off explosions
If you are referring to the train feat, Iron Fist passed through the train like a bullet, he wasn't caught in the explosion at all.
The explosion wasn't specially powerful by the way.
None of the Hydra guys in the immediate vicinity of Iron Fist were completely unharmed too meaning that the area was safe.
and can wreck a hellicarrier with a single punch that sends out an energy flare?
The damages to the hull were minimal so the schockwave perturbed the navigation instrument. That's a good feat but it is way way way overestimated.
And is a bullet timer?
Like all street-levelers and that's not an argument.
Danny has a lot of bad match-ups against guys at Batman-level skills like Wolverine or Captain America.
Originally posted by Surtur
So wait, all street levelers are bullet timers now? As in, they full on Batgirl'ed some bullets?
Quote several that aren't then ^^
Also, you say the feat for the hellicarrier is good but overestimated. Okay fair enough. Batman gets struck with the same amount of force, what happens?
That's not on me to prove what the Iron Fist will do to Batman.
For the record, IF was incapable to one-shot Black Panther.
Originally posted by Surturcue golgo posting scans of batman getting hit by wonder woman and oneshotting grundy while calling it his average.
So wait, all street levelers are bullet timers now? As in, they full on Batgirl'ed some bullets?Also, you say the feat for the hellicarrier is good but overestimated. Okay fair enough. Batman gets struck with the same amount of force, what happens?
Originally posted by RealityWarperyou happen to have any legitimate proof of that? Last time I checked, he got owned hard by KGBeast, lost miserably to Lady Shiva, got casually beaten by bronze tiger, got beaten on by catman, got beaten on by bane (a guy that taught himself how to fight), usually gets stabbed two to three times whenever he fights the joker, and occasionally has trouble with his other rogues (most of whom have no formal training or skill to speak of).
And he is more skilled than Danny.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Quote several that aren't then ^^That's not on me to prove what the Iron Fist will do to Batman.
For the record, IF was incapable to one-shot Black Panther.
While he was wearing a vibranium suit that tanked multiple hits from Iron Man and Namor. And he still beat him so badly, he caused brain damage resulting in an inoperable aneurysm.
Take away the suit (and comic book PIS), and T'challa would have died in one hit.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Quote several that aren't then ^^
I don't consider Batman or any of the Bat family to be bullet timers(besides Cassandra Cain).
Besides that, I had always thought that physically IF was at least around Spider-Man level, but maybe I am wrong.
That's not on me to prove what the Iron Fist will do to Batman.For the record, IF was incapable to one-shot Black Panther.
But if you are saying Batman wins you need to prove he can survive IF's more powerful attack. It's not like Batman can take IF out before he gets an attack off.
As for Black Panther, doesn't he wear armor made out of nearly indestructible metal?
Originally posted by deathslash
you happen to have any legitimate proof of that? Last time I checked, he got owned hard by KGBeast, lost miserably to Lady Shiva, got casually beaten by bronze tiger, got beaten on by catman, got beaten on by bane (a guy that taught himself how to fight), usually gets stabbed two to three times whenever he fights the joker, and occasionally has trouble with his other rogues (most of whom have no formal training or skill to speak of).
All the guy you quoted are very skilled in combat so it's not a low showing to lose to them.
Batman has taken down superhuman with just his skill. Danny usually need to rely on his Iron Fist to have a chance.
Originally posted by cdtm
While he was wearing a vibranium suit that tanked multiple hits from Iron Man and Namor. And he still beat him so badly, he caused brain damage resulting in an inoperable aneurysm.Take away the suit (and comic book PIS), and T'challa would have died in one hit.
As far as I remember Danny was amped by the Dragon or something on that order.
Originally posted by Surtur
I don't consider Batman or any of the Bat family to be bullet timers(besides Cassandra Cain).
Batman is roughly the same that other street-levelers concerning bullet timing.
Besides that, I had always thought that physically IF was at least around Spider-Man level, but maybe I am wrong.
Nope.
Danny is an athlete at base level.
Peak human when he summons his own Chi.
Enhanced human when it comes to his durability.
His striking power is greatly enhanced by the Chi of Shou-Lao.
Spider-man is superhuman in all stats.
But if you are saying Batman wins you need to prove he can survive IF's more powerful attack. It's not like Batman can take IF out before he gets an attack off.
Tanking attacks of Grundy, Wonder Woman and all should be enough I guess.
As for Black Panther, doesn't he wear armor made out of nearly indestructible metal?
The Vibranium absorb kinetic damages but Iron Fist was enhanced by the Dragon.