Black Adam vs. Savage Hulk

Started by DarkSaint856 pages

Plus, what upgrades? It's all due to his anger levels. Is he more efficient in his conversion? What?

The notion of Hulk getting upgrades is laughable, die to the nature of his powers.

Originally posted by cdtm
Good to know, since Namor beat him again underwater. Via a more impressive head on collision.

Scans. I think you are talking about the same era. Don't know why I am asking for scans when you're not going to post them.

What upgrades?

Originally posted by leonidas
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i think the idea that adam would overwhelm hulk before he became strong enough is.....kinda ridiculous. name me a fight where a character ko'd hulk fight at the start of a fight because he wasn't strong enough to handle the character and we can talk. adam's not ko'ing hulk in the first seconds of this fight, at least not imo. thor has never been able to do it, or hercules. i don't see adam doing it either. /shrug

This. Hulk wins.

Originally posted by leonidas
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i think the idea that adam would overwhelm hulk before he became strong enough is.....kinda ridiculous. name me a fight where a character ko'd hulk fight at the start of a fight because he wasn't strong enough to handle the character and we can talk. adam's not ko'ing hulk in the first seconds of this fight, at least not imo. thor has never been able to do it, or hercules. i don't see adam doing it either. /shrug

Logically, if someone is going all out against Hulk, with similar fighting speed as him, and don't ko him fast enough then it's impossible for them to ko him.
Why? Because he would just heal and get stronger, making it harder. Thus no progress would be made.

But historically Hulk doesn't work that way. He doesn't increase strength that fast or even heals that fast on average. Hulk can be beat physically by Thor, Sentry, Thanos, etc without being overwhelmed before he so called gets stronger.

Let's say it takes Hulk 5 seconds to heal from a busted nose. Then the opponent has less than 5 seconds to add more damage before Hulk is fully restored.

BA has superspeed. He is faster than a bullet. He can easily hit Hulk multiple times compiling on damage quickly to eventually ko Hulk. BA is faster than wolverine or Cap. Thus he should have an easier time avoiding being hit by Hulk.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Plus, what upgrades? It's all due to his anger levels. Is he more efficient in his conversion? What?

The notion of Hulk getting upgrades is laughable, die to the nature of his powers.

Yeah, Savage getting an upgrade sounded kind of off. Different Hulks might be considered "upgrades", but we're talking about one specific version here..

It makes zero sense. The madder Hulk gets, the stronger he gets.

That's always been true.

Either the rate at which he gets angry is upgraded, or he's just angrier in general. But there's no such thing as a Hulk upgrade.

Originally posted by h1a8
Logically, if someone is going all out against Hulk, with similar fighting speed as him, and don't ko him fast enough then it's impossible for them to ko him.
Why? Because he would just heal and get stronger, making it harder. Thus no progress would be made.

But historically Hulk doesn't work that way. He doesn't increase strength that fast or even heals that fast on average. Hulk can be beat physically by Thor, Sentry, Thanos, etc without being overwhelmed before he so called gets stronger.

Let's say it takes Hulk 5 seconds to heal from a busted nose. Then the opponent has less than 5 seconds to add more damage before Hulk is fully restored.

BA has superspeed. He is faster than a bullet. He can easily hit Hulk multiple times compiling on damage quickly to eventually ko Hulk. BA is faster than wolverine or Cap. Thus he should have an easier time avoiding being hit by Hulk.

Wolverine js faster than a bullet and Hulk healing factor works so fast that it appears be is completely indestructible but his body is repairing the damage as soon as it happens.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111115588/3866352-grey+hulk+82.jpg

This is Grey Hulk. Everything about Green Hulk is more advanced. Adam isn't bypassing that healing factor.

Originally posted by carver9
Wolverine js faster than a bullet and Hulk healing factor works so fast that it appears be is completely indestructible but his body is repairing the damage as soon as it happens.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111115588/3866352-grey+hulk+82.jpg

This is Grey Hulk. Everything about Green Hulk is more advanced. Adam isn't bypassing that healing factor.

Could you not use a better example? Really? It's Adam. Black Adam.

Wolverine can't even see the line he'd have to cross to do the level of damage that Adam can.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Could you not use a better example? Really? It's Adam. Black Adam.

Wolverine can't even see the line he'd have to cross to do the level of damage that Adam can.

The level of damage isn't the point of the scan, it's the fact that Hulk heals nigh instantly. Also, Wolverine claws has done far more damage than a lot of high class opponents when it comes to fighting super bricks. Example would be Rulk. Rulk owned Thor and Savage Hulk. Wolverine almost killed him. I think the example is perfect.

A better example is a weaker Wolverine (X-23) and a supposedly astronomically stronger Hulk (WWH).

Cut his eyes out.

Originally posted by carver9
The level of damage isn't the point of the scan, it's the fact that Hulk heals nigh instantly. Also, Wolverine claws has done far more damage than a lot of high class opponents when it comes to fighting super bricks. Example would be Rulk. Rulk owned Thor and Savage Hulk. Wolverine almost killed him. I think the example is perfect.

Rulk is a piece of shit and a terrible example to use.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Rulk is a piece of shit and a terrible example to use.

One hit did this and it was by accident...

Wolverine has the power to one shot kill high class 100's. Yes, my argument is valid.

Where's the bloodlusted Wolverine from Enemy of the State fighting Thing?

WOLVERINE IS FASTER THAN A BULLET!

BONK.

Originally posted by carver9
One hit did this and it was by accident...

Wolverine has the power to one shot kill high class 100's. Yes, my argument is valid.

You didn't hear a word I said... Or you genuinely think Wolverine can replicate what Adam can.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A better example is a weaker Wolverine (X-23) and a supposedly astronomically stronger Hulk (WWH).

Cut his eyes out.

And that would've been, what? Hulk's 9th upgrade or so...? mmm

25th. But Elixir dampened his HF, so he was only on his 10th upgrade.

Was still green though, so he was def above Gray Hulk who fought Sun God.

Originally posted by cdtm

Namor's a better example then Thor or Herc, because he doesn't screw around. As soon as he has the upper hand, he drops the hammer.

well, tbf, he seems to have sort of suffocated hulk there, and there's the issue that it happened...50 years ago? both characters and the way they are viewed now have changed dramatically. again, where has someone overwhelmed and ko'd hulk in the opening moments of the fight within the last...2-3 decades?

Originally posted by leonidas
well, tbf, he seems to have sort of suffocated hulk there, and there's the issue that it happened...50 years ago? both characters and the way they are viewed now have changed dramatically. again, where has someone overwhelmed and ko'd hulk in the opening moments of the fight within the last...2-3 decades?

SUNGOD!!!!!