Originally posted by Azronger
Luke's definitely more powerful than Sidious in raw TK and stuff like that. But I honestly can't see a way for him to actually kill Sidious.
Originally posted by Azronger
Talzin isn't incorporeal here, so not sure why you're bringing that up. Besides, Dark Side Sourcebook notes that to kill a dark side spirit you just need lots of light side energy, which Luke - being the most powerful Force user and all that - has plenty:http://m.imgur.com/account/Azronger/images/1OXMI7o
And just because Sidious may not have succeeded in killing Talzin doesn't mean Luke won't be able to, as he is far more powerful than Sidious is.
She can dissipate into an incorporeal form faster than Grievous can swing a Lightsaber, with no apparent limitations. Surrendering her physical form does not make her a spirit, either, at least not in the conventional sense as she's free to reform at will, and travel. I'd suggest you familiarise yourself with the character....
Studious wouldn't succeed because she's literally impossible to kill in open combat without an anchor like Maul tying her down.
Luke can deflect Talzin's lightning with his lightsaber and teleport around the battlefield. Talzin can't run away because of that and he can slaughter her anytime in CQC.Not seeing how she has any chance.
Originally posted by Selenial
She can dissipate into an incorporeal form faster than Grievous can swing a Lightsaber, with no apparent limitations. Surrendering her physical form does not make her a spirit, either, at least not in the conventional sense as she's free to reform at will, and travel. I'd suggest you familiarise yourself with the character....
Luke is a lot faster than Grievous, so that doesn't mean she could evade Luke like that. And she was tagged by Sidious' lightning, so she clearly has limits.
Given that, while massively weakened and pre-prime, Luke could destroy dozens of the Emperor's clones faster than Palpatine's essence can travel (note that Palpatine's essence is omnipresent) to inhabit one clone, I don't see what Talzin has to suggest she could dissipate before Luke lands a hit. I could honestly see Luke speedblitzing Talzin.
Studious wouldn't succeed because she's literally impossible to kill in open combat without an anchor like Maul tying her down.
Not sure what you mean here. She was at full power and Grievous could kill her just fine. Or is there some connection between her and Maul that I'm not aware of?
Regardless, this sounds suspiciously like a no-limits fallacy.
She can also teleport, and yes he can deflect her lightning, but good luck being overwhelmingly successful at that while Windu and Yoda are on your tail.
Yoda and Windu aren't on his tail when 30 seconds haven't passed. Talzin's only option is to flee the battlefield, and even that won't work since Luke can follow her wherever she goes with his own teleportation abilities.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
[B]using his lightsaber, tking him with objects, redirecting his lightning,
Sidious can shrug off all of that no difficulty.
using a more powerful version of the batttle mediation leia used on a weakened de sidious
That was a Wall of Light, not Battle Meditation. And Sidious had literally poured 99% of his power into a Force Storm, so he was hardly in a position to defend himself.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
[B]"palpatine's essenc eis omnipresent"
What?
Omnipresent in the context that he's everywhere in the same room:
Palpatine:_Very well, then I must die! (laughs)
Luke:_He's vanished!
Palpatine:_Vanished, Skywalker? I exist as energy, remember? I am all around you! Here! And here! And here! And here!
–Dark Empire Audio Drama
And then how the f is luke moving faster than something thats omnipresent?
Because Luke Skywalker is, well, Luke Skywalker. I don't see how that requires further explanation.
Originally posted by Azronger
Sidious can shrug off all of that no difficulty.That was a Wall of Light, not Battle Meditation. And Sidious had literally poured 99% of his power into a Force Storm, so he was hardly in a position to defend himself.
Also yeas, de being omnipresent and being slower than luke would require luke bending with fcking time or something
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
I was referring to dark empire 2. granted that was a weakened palp but pre prime leia is well elow gm luke as a force user
Luke and Palpatine do not make contact in DE 2, except via TP. Not sure what you mean.
Also yeas, de being omnipresent and being slower than luke would require luke bending with fcking time or something
All the more reason why Talzin isn't reacting to Luke 🙂
Originally posted by Azronger
Luke and Palpatine do not make contact in DE 2, except via TP. Not sure what you mean.All the more reason why Talzin isn't reacting to Luke 🙂
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Saying Luke is faster than omnipresence gave me cancer.
This gave me 2 cancers 🙂