Aquaman vs. Wolverine, Storm & Cyclops

Started by DarkSaint854 pages

So is Batman's. Streets always look good against top tiers.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Coin flip? Logan has a winning record against Namor, who is Artie's superior in every way.

Hardly Arthur is faster than both.

Strength at this point could be higher with the scepter feat, and durability is up there via scaling.

Originally posted by carver9
Agreed. I just didn't want to sound bias. Wolverine showings against top tiers are better than Aquaman imo.

He also has a pretty consistent win/loss record against other street level characters h2h... Reason why ABC is wanky. We don't suggest Batman is highter than street or low mid because of his showings against Wonder Woman, because we know by actual personal feats what Batman and Diana are capable of.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Hardly Arthur is faster than both.

Strength at this point could be higher with the scepter feat, and durability is up there via scaling.

He also has a pretty consistent win/loss record against other street level characters h2h... Reason why ABC is wanky. We don't suggest Batman is highter than street or low mid because of his showings against Wonder Woman, because we know by actual personal feats what Batman and Diana are capable of.

Sigh.

I think Aquaman is a match against Wolverine, but adding Storm to the equation makes it pretty tough for Aquaman.

Originally posted by carver9
Sigh.

You're really not in the position to be acting like that towards anyone.

There's a good thread on here where some people argue fights are a better gauge of abilities than feats.

By that logic, Aquaman looks good. Of course, some may argue its PIS....

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Aquaman isn't even weak to heat based attacks, so it wasn't much of a case either..

Aquaman has been in the desert and it hasn't done anything to him. He doesn't have a heat weakness, the real threat is Wolverine. I don't see Wolverine beating him 1 on 1 but with Cyclops and Storm they could get some wins. However I don't think Cyclops and Storm can really hurt him but Storm could use things like wind to to possibly hinder his movement.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Hardly Arthur is faster than both.

Hardly. He's not even faster than Namor, unless you use the crossover that has been specifically banned from this message board.

Team should take it more often than not, if only because they have surer means to put Arthur down, and all of the battlefield control in this match.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hardly. He's not even faster than Namor, unless you use the crossover that has been specifically banned from this message board.

Yeah he his, Namor's best speed feat is dodging a sonic attack?

Aquaman routinely has dodged lightning in publication.

If anything that crossover made his advantage pretty legit, which is speed. Namor has been consistently somewhat stronger than most incarnations of Aquaman. But I'd argue the New52 changed that and took away Namor's one physical advantage.

Gotta ask, how many instances is there of him dodging lightning? I've seen maybe a couple that I remember, but I will admit it's been a while.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace

If anything that crossover made his advantage pretty legit, which is speed. Namor has been consistently somewhat stronger than most incarnations of Aquaman. But I'd argue the New52 changed that and took away Namor's one physical advantage.
😐 you do realize that namor has made thanos bleed, been portrayed as a physical peer of hyperion, and used ares as a bat to bludgeon sentry with right? It seems like every time he appears, he gets even stronger.

Aquaman does not have fts on Namor level. Looking at Namor fts, he is top tier.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Gotta ask, how many instances is there of him dodging lightning? I've seen maybe a couple that I remember, but I will admit it's been a while.

3 or 4. 1 being a statement another being Pre-Crisis. 2 I think in main continuity.

Originally posted by deathslash
😐 you do realize that namor has made thanos bleed, been portrayed as a physical peer of hyperion, and used ares as a bat to bludgeon sentry with right? It seems like every time he appears, he gets even stronger.

Aquaman put a hole in Darkseid's chest to where it was leaking Energy out. He honestly was the only one on the league to do that much damage to a more sturdy part of Darkseid's body. Given there are 2 people stronger than Namor on that league. I'd say that's impressive. I could see an argument for Nu52 Hal before his upgrades against Namor. And Hal couldn't do squat to Darkseid.

There's also the fact that he broke Graves Pretas shielding something the rest of the league didn't do as well. And this includes a pissed off Wonder Woman who punched Graves Shielding to no effect.

By Statements in comics and out of comics as well as actual showings Aquaman has been presented to be a peer to Wonder Woman on avg.

Regardless I said he was faster. Which I stand by, and I said the scepter feat comes off better than anything I've seen Namor do. In regards to raw strength and durability.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
3 or 4. 1 being a statement another being Pre-Crisis. 2 I think in main continuity.

I was (badly) working on a respect thread a while back, so I didn't recall correctly. I probably have the scans if you can name the issues though.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I was (badly) working on a respect thread a while back, so I didn't recall correctly. I probably have the scans if you can name the issues though.

I'd have to backtrack for the Weather Wizard and Detroit scan.

Offhead one instance is from War of the Gods that Wonder Woman event. Aquaman Dodges lightning that was from Zeus and Jupiter's fire fight. Brave and the Bold 32 "Night Gods" is where he Dodges Demon lightning.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I'd have to backtrack for the Weather Wizard and Detroit scan.

Offhead one instance is from War of the Gods that Wonder Woman event. Aquaman Dodges lightning that was from Zeus and Jupiter's fire fight. Brave and the Bold 32 "Night Gods" is where he Dodges Demon lightning.

This one?

I don't have War of the Gods, for some reason. Damn list must not have been complete.

Originally posted by -Pr-
This one?

I don't have War of the Gods, for some reason. Damn list must not have been complete.


That's the one.

Alot of the stuff I reference is on this thread.
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/aquaman/4005-2357/forums/arthur-curry-aka-aquaman-composite-respect-thread-1774986/#121

This is the War of the Gods instance.
http://imgur.com/a/hTsPt

His reaction suggest he wasn't expecting the lightning.

Originally posted by -Pr-
This one?


Also demonstrates how fast he fights underwater.

He went from dodging lightning, to creating a whirlpool, punching a demon and dodging lightning at the same time. Then punching the demon that fired lightning at him all in a page with a few panels.