Screw it I'll do it

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He can still throw things.

Battlefield is NYC. No bystanders. If he can lift a cruise ship, he can lift a small car (and multiple ones).

Long range weaponry is...pretty much anything he can get a hold of. Lamp posts become de facto tridents.

This.

Arthur is not a supergenius, but he's no idiot either. and in character I wouldn't say he has any particular fighting style, but it certainly wouldn't be that of a dumbass brawler who would intentionally close the gap with Logan. If anything, Arthur is aware of and makes better use of his environment in a fight than just about anyone.

So throwing a bus at Wolverine wouldnt do anything?

Originally posted by carver9
My argument is, he enjoys going fist cuff. It's what he does. I wouldn't say Hulk would thunderclap the entire match until his opponent is out. Can he do it, yes but will he do it throughout an entire battle, NO because it's out of character.

Arthur could literally grab chunks of concrete out of the ground and throw them like hypersonic snowballs. Logan doesent get knocked out usually due to pis

Originally posted by carver9
My argument is, he enjoys going fist cuff. It's what he does. I wouldn't say Hulk would thunderclap the entire match until his opponent is out. Can he do it, yes but will he do it throughout an entire battle, NO because it's out of character.

Posts like this prove you don't know **** about Aquaman's character.

i assumed a standard ring-style battle. in a city environment am def has a better chance. i don't see this being much different from logan fighting namor tbh and he has done well against namor in the past. tp wouldn't be a great choice here either as logan has some of the best tp defenses out there--and if this is current arthur, as i thought, tp is out the window anyway.

in a city am can get a majority, depending on the showings you want to use to support logan. in a ring-style match up am gets gutted far more times than not imo.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He can still throw things.

Battlefield is NYC. No bystanders. If he can lift a cruise ship, he can lift a small car (and multiple ones).

Long range weaponry is...pretty much anything he can get a hold of. Lamp posts become de facto tridents.

Assuming the fan fiction of Aquaman swinging cars holds true, which goes against how he has faced similar characters to Wolverine in combat since New 52, how would they be effective against somebody who can take Class 100 hits and keep going, on top of being agile and fast as hell?

Are thrown cars more potent than hits from Hulk?

We can go by lamp posts being used as a trident (as new 52 is sooo wedded to his, if we want to go by strict artwork). Seeing as the leap of logic to throw things is too far.

I mean, I'm not half a warrior that Arthur is portrayed to be, but I'd still think to throw a car. Or two. Or three, NYC seems full of them.

Are they more effective than the Hulk? Yes. Because pinning Logan under one, then two, then three 1 ton cars would immobilise him better than the Hulk's hand (which has caught him many a time).

Or, just run him through with a post which is being wielded like a trident. One not enough? Add another. And another.

For all the talk about his love of fisticuffs, of the JLA, he along with WW sure seem to be carrying their weapons a lot of the time.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We can go by lamp posts being used as a trident (as new 52 is sooo wedded to his, if we want to go by strict artwork). Seeing as the leap of logic to throw things is too far.

He swings it, Wolverine dodges it and cuts the highly durable lamp post in pieces.
Or he gets hit, cuts it into pieces, and continues the fight.

Now what? Will Wolverine wait until Arthur rips out a lamp post and do it again?
Will he simply stab Arthur in the heart, or is that an alternate fan fiction?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I mean, I'm not half a warrior that Arthur is portrayed to be, but I'd still think to throw a car. Or two. Or three, NYC seems full of them.

Are they more effective than the Hulk? Yes. Because pinning Logan under one, then two, then three 1 ton cars would immobilise him better than the Hulk's hand (which has caught him many a time).

Is this before or after he rips out the lamp post, thinking it's equivalent to his trident?
Is the fight stipulation that Wolverine is stationary?
Can Wolverine attack?
Can Wolverine dodge?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
For all the talk about his love of fisticuffs, of the JLA, he along with WW sure seem to be carrying their weapons a lot of the time.

Him fashioning a trident out of lamp post because he lacks one is a hilarious thought, though.

Agreed that in this thread he has no weapon.

Except people are arguing that he will only ever display the behaviour he has displayed in comics.

He has never thrown things, therefore he won't throw things.

So the point being made is that if he's so slavishly devoted to his depiction, unable to change his behaviour, then yes, he's making erstwhile tridents and pinning things. Because apparently, he's unable to change his behaviour.

Sure, Wolverine is fast, but the strength required to lift cruise ships when applied to a car makes it pretty fast. Would it tag? Prob yes, prob not.

But to say he doesn't have long range weapons is false.

Lol... reading some of the quotes. I'm...lost...for...words. I don't have to intervene because Philo is killing it.

👆 Thanks for proving my point.

Apparently, we have to disregard character when discussing fights.

Sure, Aqua man isn't exactly Batman or WW in fighting skills. But apparently, 'throwing something' when even cavemen were doing it, is out of the question. Because we have never seen art depicting him do it.

Moreover, re read my posts. Never said who would win. Merely that to say there were no long range options is false.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sure, Aqua man isn't exactly Batman or WW in fighting skills. But apparently, 'throwing something' when even cavemen were doing it, is out of the question. Because we have never seen art depicting him do it.

Preboot we did at least three times. Unless you knew that and are being sarcastic.

Originally posted by riv6672
Thank you for agreeing with me; Aquaman would make that plane his *****. 🙂

Modern Logan took Walter's punches just fine.

Read comics, rivia.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Agreed that in this thread he has no weapon.

Except people are arguing that he will only ever display the behaviour he has displayed in comics.

He has never thrown things, therefore he won't throw things.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So the point being made is that if he's so slavishly devoted to his depiction, unable to change his behaviour, then yes, he's making erstwhile tridents and pinning things. Because apparently, he's unable to change his behaviour.

Sure, Wolverine is fast, but the strength required to lift cruise ships when applied to a car makes it pretty fast. Would it tag? Prob yes, prob not.

But to say he doesn't have long range weapons is false.

Aquaman spitting on him is also a range weapon, and about as effective as it would be to throw cars at somebody who has taken hits from class 100s.

I'm trying to have you walk me through the fight as you would see it.. You're just randomly spewing shit like "Uhh...lampost because it looks like a trident. Uhhhh...throwing cars".

The only somewhat feasible tactic is Aquaman managing to drop a car on top of Wolverine. Assuming he hits a combat ready, highly agile moving around Wolverine with perfect timing, and Wolverine is somehow in a very specific position that he won't be able to move/slash his way out of the car, in no way is that even close to portraying the majority of the fights.

It's a random, very specific scenario that ventures in the realm of fan fiction because you feel obligated to find a way for Aquaman to win. And that is completely disingenuous.

KMC isn't letting me PM Philo now. Or maybe he just doesn't like me... 🙁

👆

To say he is going to only punch and kick, despite having general knowledge of Wolverine, and seeing the foot long knives on each hand, is, frankly, a massive lowball of his intelligence.

Moreover, he's surrounded by all manner of objects, with no civilians around. I'm not exactly arguing that he'll suddenly become Bullseye, lol.

Originally posted by -Pr-
KMC isn't letting me PM Philo now. Or maybe he just doesn't like me... 🙁

mail until I get this fixed/Raz: [email protected]

Philo, see my post about who wins. So eager were you to jump on me, you forgot to read the part where I said Aquaman wins, or that he wins due to lamp posts.

Wait, its because I never said that. I only said he had ranged options.

Randomly spewing? All I said was he was in NYC, surrounded by all manner of objects. Some of which were pole shaped, and analagous to tridents (IF we were following carver's logic of him only knowing how to fight a certain way).

Least you have carver on your side, all lubed up, you star quarterback you 😛

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Philo, see my post about who wins. So eager were you to jump on me, you forgot to read the part where I said Aquaman wins, or that he wins due to lamp posts.

Wait, its because I never said that. I only said he had ranged options.

Least you have carver on your side, all lubed up, you star quarterback you 😛

I thought you were implying he wins, my bad. 😛

Notice I gave Aquaman 3/10 for exactly the type of out-of-regular scenarios that you're talking about.