Originally posted by Ursumeles
It's canonically that they are.
Accolades say so.
Accolades mean nothing without feats to back them up. Look at this I can dig up quote stating Jaina Solo as combat equal to any NJO master, so going by accolades Jaina is GM Luke level, but you wouldn't put her there, would you?
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Pretty sure Luke was still exiled by the time that quote was stated.
Originally posted by Ursumeles
IIRC, at least officially, yeah 👆LMAO.
Yes, they are canonical.
Feats-only is for morons.
Originally posted by Habro
Just an example, can find more if you want. Like TPM Maul being one of the greatest Sith warriors in histrory.
This is actually a fact.
Yeah, no. No, no. Accolades can be exggravated, in hyperbole, even fake, bias, lies...Without feats to back them up, they mean nothing.
Accolades are valid unless contradicted by another accolade and/or feats. The sensibility to use a character that has only accolades in a vs battle, however, is another topic.
Just an example, can find more if you want. Like TPM Maul being one of the greatest Sith warriors in histrory.
Yeah, no. No, no. Accolades can be exggravated, in hyperbole, even fake, bias, lies...Without feats to back them up, they mean nothing.
Edit: @TW
👆 @most of your post, but...
Accolades are valid unless contradicted by another accolade and/or feats.
Originally posted by Ursumeles
He obviously is, lmfao.Yeah...yes, yes, yes.
Hyperbolic accolades are mostly in-Universe and subjective - things like Plagueis > Vitiate are from subjective sources 👆Edit: @TW
👆 @most of your post, but...
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Accolades are valid unless contradicted by another accolade and/[B]or feats.
Nah. Only when you mean things like Dooku being Yoda's equal, which is not true considering their fight. [/B]
Well us two then have different definition of warriors, because Maul shouldn't have struggled against Jedi Master of Qui-Gon caliber and a padawan if truly had been one of the greatest. Not to mention almost got overwhelmed by a padawan. And how can Plagueis defeat Vitiate then? What is his win condition?
Originally posted by Habro
Well us two then have different definition of warriors, because Maul shouldn't have struggled against Jedi Master of Qui-Gon caliber and a padawan if truly had been one of the greatest. Not to mention almost got overwhelmed by a padawan. And how can Plagueis defeat Vitiate then? What is his win condition?
Gui-Gon is one of the best swordsman produced by the order. Maul almost dominating him and his padawan (which would become one the best Jedi ever in the future) is a solid feat to back up his accolade.
Originally posted by Ursumeles
That's what I said.
But Accolades like Plagueis > Vitiate can't be contradicted by feats - as least as long as Vitty doesn't beats him.
I never claimed otherwise. Considering Plagueis' own feats and his doubt about his placement among the ancients, I consider him to be marginally superior to Vitiate.