Niman vs mastery of all forms

It seems as though Niman calls for the integration of all the forms in combat; how does this differ from mastery of all the forms in practical application? Sure a master of all forms can decide to stick to just one style like Yoda, but someone like Sidious incorporates aspects from every form.

A master of all forms can practice Juyo.

Basically choose when to do what all on their own.

Whereas Niman's for people who don't care to hone their skills that far (or prefer to rely on their Force powers), such as Krayt, Kun, and Starkiller.

Niman is a form for its practicality, it's not as precise as Form 2, kinetic as Form IV or as dominating as Form V. It's noted that it'd be next to impossible for a master of Niman to defeat an expert in Form 2. Though a master of Niman is capable of taking control of a group of enemies and defeating them one by one.

Of course a Master of Form 3 pretty much the same thing, they can defeat an ambush group of 20.

In short a Master of all lightsaber forms will have the advantage against a Master of Niman, because Niman isn't as a demanding nor real focused form compared to the actual lightsaber forms.

Originally posted by Geistalt
Whereas Niman's for people who don't care to hone their skills that far (or prefer to rely on their Force powers), such as Krayt, Kun, and Starkiller.

Um, what?

Krayt perfected his skills in single combat over a century.

Kun didn't just use Niman, he reinvented it and incorporated ancient Sith lightsaber techniques into his new fighting style. Techniques that Karness Muur would have used when he stalemated Krayt.

Starkiller didn't just use Niman, he used Juyo and Sith Shien. He's even stated to have nearly perfected his lightsaber skills under Vader's tutelage.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Niman is a form for its practicality, it's not as precise as Form 2, kinetic as Form IV or as dominating as Form V. It's noted that it'd be next to impossible for a master of Niman to defeat an expert in Form 2. Though a master of Niman is capable of taking control of a group of enemies and defeating them one by one.

Of course a Master of Form 3 pretty much the same thing, they can defeat an ambush group of 20.

In short a Master of all lightsaber forms will have the advantage against a Master of Niman, because Niman isn't as a demanding nor real focused form compared to the actual lightsaber forms.

Niman is the form for the ridiculously gifted, like Revan and Exar Kun. When pretentious newbies try to master it you have Geonosis.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Starkiller didn't just use Niman, he used Juyo... He's even stated to have nearly perfected his lightsaber skills under Vader's tutelage.

True mastery of Niman is supposed to grant you amazing fighting skill, but for most it's known as a form of mediocrity.

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
Niman is the form for the ridiculously gifted, like Revan and Exar Kun. When pretentious newbies try to master it you have Geonosis.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
do you have any descriptions of niman handy?

Yeah, here.

Form VI is the most balanced of all styles. It is not as precise as Form 2, as defensive as Form 3, as kinetic as Form IV, nor as dominating as Form V, but Form VI draws from all styles to create a hybrid form marked for its practicality.

- Taken from Jedi Path.

While it's true that it would be near impossible for a Form VI adherent to defeat an expert in Makashi, this doesn't mean that the style isn't useful for facing down criminals and thugs.

- Taken from Jedi Path

Proper management of these tools allows a Form VI master to take control of a group of enemies and defeat them one by one.

- Taken from Jedi Path

Is Form VI the most worthy of study? No, but in general it is the most practical.

- Taken from Jedi V Sith

Form VI balances the emphasis of other forms with overall moderation.

- Taken from Jedi V Sith

I look at Niman as a more advanced version of Shii-Cho, both are all around forms which aren't good yet they aren't terrible either compared to the lightsaber forms, though Niman incorporates the other styles.

Also this:

This form seeks to balance the strengths of the previous forms through a combination of moderation and calm. A Jedi who has mastered Form VI wields amazing lightsaber skill, but does not focus on power or aggression.

-- Lightsabers: A Guide to the Weapons of the Force

Thx,