DOS Superman vs. Amped Kurse

Originally posted by kevdude
If he wasn't getting stronger then how did he stop Doomsday? If he didn't start going all out against Doomsday he would have never been able to effect him like what he was doing at the beginning of DOS.. There's comic's related to this topic, that you ignore! 😱

Originally posted by JBL
He wasn't getting any stronger. That's why he put everything he had left, I will say it again, everything he had left, I will say it one more time, everything he had left?(get it now) to try and end the fight BEFORE DD ends him. One last hope this is enough because I have nothing left in the tank after this strike blow. No why do you think he had to do that if he was getting stronger?

People also act as if the previous damage incurred by Doomsday had no effect.

Originally posted by JBL
He wasn't getting any stronger. That's why he put everything he had left, I will say it again, everything he had left, I will say it one more time, everything he had left?(get it now) to try and end the fight BEFORE DD ends him. One last hope this is enough because I have nothing left in the tank after this strike blow. No why do you think he had to do that if he was getting stronger?

So when he stalemates Billy, he's not even passing out. He still has plenty in the tank.

i think it's pretty clear (and has been proven a long while ago through a mod ruling after a careful examination of all the evidence....) that superman def has a form of dynamic strength. does it work in the same way hulk's does? no. i don't believe anyone has says it does. hulk (in theory) has limitless strength (proven false on panel too many times to count, of course). no one is saying (i don't think) that superman's strength is hypothetically limitless. but is it capable of increasing when extreme situations arise? obviously. denying the fact is outright trolling and should end in a ban of some sort.

is it fair to say there is a limit to what his body can metabolize? absolutely. the limit of that would depend on the writer as much as anything, but his day-to-day strength is no where near what his extreme situation strength is. he has the added drawback of imposing limits on himself, mentally, as well. this is in no way saying that his strength is greater because he stops holding back. that is entirely different. were the blocks simply mental, that case might be made. but there is a physical change taking place as well. stress leads to increased radiation absorption which leads to increased strength. in THAT way it is identical to hulk. the difference is a case can be made that he has a limit, where hulk it has been posited, does not. no ww and cap marvel and adam cannot replicate superman's strength increase. anyone gets stronger when they unleash (even humans) but their bodies don't undergo change like superman's does.

this....really isn't very complicated. /shrug

Originally posted by leonidas
i think it's pretty clear (and has been proven a long while ago through a mod ruling after a careful examination of all the evidence....) that superman def has a form of dynamic strength. does it work in the same way hulk's does? no. i don't believe anyone has says it does. hulk (in theory) has limitless strength (proven false on panel too many times to count, of course). no one is saying (i don't think) that superman's strength is hypothetically limitless. but is it capable of increasing when extreme situations arise? obviously. denying the fact is outright trolling and should end in a ban of some sort.

is it fair to say there is a limit to what his body can metabolize? absolutely. the limit of that would depend on the writer as much as anything, but his day-to-day strength is no where near what his extreme situation strength is. he has the added drawback of imposing limits on himself, mentally, as well. this is in no way saying that his strength is greater because he stops holding back. that is entirely different. were the blocks simply mental, that case might be made. but there is a physical change taking place as well. stress leads to increased radiation absorption which leads to increased strength. in THAT way it is identical to hulk. the difference is a case can be made that he has a limit, where hulk it has been posited, does not. no ww and cap marvel and adam cannot replicate superman's strength increase. anyone gets stronger when they unleash (even humans) but their bodies don't undergo change like superman's does.

this....really isn't very complicated. /shrug

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Except the scan says RETAIN. Not using.

Originally posted by leonidas
this....really isn't very complicated. /shrug

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Originally posted by Galan007
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It is when you're desperate, apparently.

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Geez, all this arguing is making me dizzy. Can we all just agree Kurse wins and move on already.

I doubt that Kurse is as powerful as Superman, however his magical nature can be very annoying.

Originally posted by tkitna
Geez, all this arguing is making me dizzy. Can we all just agree Kurse wins and move on already.

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Originally posted by carver9
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Shhh, the grownups are debating. Run along now.

Originally posted by carver9
sabertooth is at 15 to 20 ton.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Based on what?

Originally posted by carver9
based on this
http://www.marveldatabase.com/Sabretooth_%28Victor_Creed%29

They didnt say enhanced strength but super human strength.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=902

and you can also go by the nearest bookstore and buy a UPDATED marvel encyclopedia and it will tell you of his strength level. I own one and it says that his strength level is unknown but it is in the 15 to 20 ton range.

lol

It's rather simple. Hulk's potential is infinite strength if he becomes angry enough. Superman has already ininifte strength (as a plot device to be as strong as he needs to be in order to complete a task or defeat an enemy) but his mental block prevent him from acccessing it. It's similar yet different.

Hulk is a trans level character. This has been shown on too many of occasions.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk is a TRANS level character. This has been shown on too many of occasions.

The only thing he has to worry about now is which bathroom he'll be using. Trump/Pence will make it very hard for him nowadays.

He might even lose the right to marry Carter

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So when he stalemates Billy, he's not even passing out. He still has plenty in the tank.

Look at eclipsed Superman.

Amp, you say? Look at eclipsed Mon-El. 😉

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
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The only thing he has to worry about now is which bathroom he'll be using. Trump/Pence will make it very hard for him nowadays.

Hater.

Originally posted by krisblaze
He might even lose the right to marry Carter

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So when he stalemates Billy, he's not even passing out. He still has plenty in the tank.

Should be noted, this isn't a knock on Billy either. One could be true without saying Cap is weak.

In fact, Cap's a special case himself. on account of his magic abilities like "Wisdom of Solomon", which basically makes him omniscent, and the Rock of Eternity channeling power into him as needed (A plot point established way back in the pre crisis era, when Supes and Cap had their first real fight, and he was inexaustible/invulnerable within Earth S, yet downgraded to "merely" Supermans equal in Earth 1)