Originally posted by ShadowFyre
But Odin can access his power instantaneously, he can stop time or simply blast Strange right off the bat. Strange needs time to do things and he wont have it here. Odin wins.
Nothing Odin does will grant him a win (Destroyer included).
Originally posted by Classic NES
Not an expert on strange (Infact, I just started learning about him). What are his various talisman and what can they do?
Ridiculously overpowered object that absorbs all magic (with no apparent upper limit).
Originally posted by riv6672
I think you're overselling this.
Dormammu had fully manifested himself on Earth. Mouse Strange with the Wings of Needless Sorrow was owning the sh|t out of Dormammu (fully manifested on Earth with inside Strange's body with ALL of Strange's powers). The only reason he didn't outright kill Dormammu with the Wings is because he had recently been purified from his "Black Mage" status and he'd also wind up destroying his own body!
Dr. Strange ATE Shuma Gorath's most powerful demon, Arioch, with the Wings. Dr. Strange was draining Shuma Gorath himself, in Gorath's own dimension, with the Wings. In case you doubt Gorath's power, just recently in an issue of Dr. Strange, Dormammu himself admitted Gorath was the more powerful demon lord.
strange is, and has always been plot devicey. does he have objects that could allow him to win this? sure, he probably does. but these objects are rarely used on multiple occasions and as you said require some prep time to gather. i suppose he could summon it, but again i'd call into question the in-character viability of his doing that. and if we assume strange can simply blink in devices, we should assume odin can as well. and there are a few....really powerful artifacts odin could call on.
in a straight up confrontation, odin kills him. given prep and access to items strange CAN win, but if we give odin the same stip, it is certainly not a sure thing. one-sided prep is obviously strange's best bet, but even then i don't think he's guaranteed victory in anyway, not if we look at his entire history (ie, how much prep did he need to barely beat dracula, to just survive mephisto....?) strange's highs are great. but he's not all highs and that has been demonstrated on the forum any number of times.
Originally posted by riv6672
^^^well put.
Also, Odin has personal power he can call on at will.
The "Magic Killers" hate Shuma Gorath most of all mystic entities. They take control of him and he manhandles Dormammu like an insect! Strange with the Wings was more than a match for Gorath in his own realm.
Originally posted by zopzop
Odin is nothing to to Wings.
The "Magic Killers" hate Shuma Gorath most of all mystic entities. They take control of him and he manhandles Dormammu like an insect! Strange with the Wings was more than a match for Gorath in his own realm.
This is PIS, how did the Emperikul manage to beat an old one? I get that they can negate magic, but come on.