Qui Gon Jinn vs. Tol Braga

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Qui Gon Jinn vs. Tol Braga

Force, sabers, all out

Considering Braga > Scourge...

At least, from what we can tell.

Jinn

Originally posted by Geistalt
Considering Braga > Scourge...

At least, from what we can tell.

Based on?

His TK feat against the Hero (while Scourge has none).

Originally posted by Geistalt
His TK feat against the Hero (while Scourge has none).
True. But even members of the Dark Council were afraid of Scourge. And even Revan praised how strong Scourge was. I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but I'm not so sure that one feat puts Braga above Scourge.

Originally posted by darthbane77
members of the Dark Council were afraid of Scourge.

Tbh it was probably more for his title and standing with the Emperor than his power. They knew that harming/speaking out against the Wrath would seem like open rebellion against Vitiate, and ultimately certain death. This is also why they didn't want to kill Baras for claiming to be the Voice. If it turned out to be true, they'd all get killed.

Still pretty sure he's stronger than Marr, what with simultaneously Force Choking 6 Sith and Imperials.

There were 8 of them. Thought there were half a dozen. Shame my memory didn't serve accurately.

Darth Marr is considered to be second to none in combative abilities within the Empire. We saw him appear to teleport to the Force imbued senses of Darth Lachriss, need I remind you.

2 Sith, 6 Imperials. He takes credit for killing all of them, though. And T7-O1 says "Sith = telling truth / freed us + secured hangar." And we only know for a fact that he Force Choked 1 of them without a gesture.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Darth Marr is considered to be second to none in combative abilities within the Empire. We saw him appear to teleport to the Force imbued senses of Darth Lachriss, need I remind you.
That was as of RotHC.

Where he's equal to the likes of Nox and Wrath, who frankly bitchslap Scourge.

Reminder for everyone that appears to have forgotten (or not been aware of the fact) that Tol Braga was one of the more powerful Jedi Council members.

Tol Braga was one of the original top 6 Jedi Masters, it was once:

Satele Shan, Tol Braga, Jaric Kaedan, Nomen Karr, Wyellett and Ven Zallow.

Zallow died in the Sacking of Coruscant, Wyellett was presumed dead over Hoth and Nomen Karr went infiltrating Sith space.

So they were replaced with Syo Bakarn, Orgus Din and Kiwiiks. Gnost-Dural was busy with Twi'lek p0rn or something.

Tol Braga, IMO.

He dominated Act-III Hero of Tython for a while in single combat and that is above Jinn's paygrade.

Originally posted by Geistalt
His TK feat against the Hero (while Scourge has none).

SWTOR Scourge doesn't have one in a cutscene but he has one and it is scripted. His TK sends Hero of Tython and his companion across the hall. The fight officially ends in a stalemate.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
SWTOR Scourge doesn't have one in a cutscene but he has one and it is scripted. His TK sends Hero of Tython and his companion across the hall.
If it's a game mechanic, I'm not sure how well that'll go with everyone else. I like to think they're accurate portrayals of NPCs' powers, myself.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The fight officially ends in a stalemate.
No; it doesn't. It ends with Scourge on his knees and wounded.

The actual game states they reached a stalemate, Scourge knelt because he didn't want a conclusive end to the fight as the Hero was the Jedi from the prophecy.

D'oh.

Guess I should try reading the summaries (assuming I ever get the chance again).

Originally posted by Geistalt
If it's a game mechanic, I'm not sure how well that'll go with everyone else. I like to think they're accurate portrayals of NPCs' powers, myself.

That attack occurs every time you fight SWTOR Scourge. And it occurs only once and timing is same. Therefore, I see it as a scripted event and not a game mechanic.

If an attack would come randomly, then that constitutes game mechanic. Correct me, if I am wrong.