Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He basically wanted people to post the Hulk, and then he would disallow every other feat, because it wasn't exactly what he wanted.Then, he would turn around and crow that only Hulk had the feats. Like asking 'which top tier is the exact shade of green that I want to see?'
He is rather predictable.
I doubt that's what Carver intended.
The original poster (O.P.) of this thread asked for the WEAKEST character who could perform this feat, not the strongest. Nor did O.P. clarify, until many posts later, that he wanted pure physical strength, and not some alternate means.
So choices like Iron Man, and Doctor Doom, and Magneto and presumably Geo Force (I haven't proven able to examine your visuals yet, TurboImageHost and KMC etcetera have been giving problems to people today, hopefully they'll have largely cleared by the time I submit this message for posting; I'm going by what the name GeoForce implies) are/were perfectly valid.
Actually, I should be able to clear up a few issues here.
One, knowing nothing about the character except name, implied powers, and the fact that Black Adam killed her by punching straight through her body, I'd go with Terra being the weakest character who could have lifted Ayers Rock.
She was, to my current knowledge, just a teenage girl, physically.
Terra's coming to mind because, two, Wonder Woman is NOT the weakest character who could lift Ayers Rock, not even if we disqualify other methods.
Wonder Woman seems, in fact, to have been able to outperform members of the Shazam family, who are pretty remarkable lifters in their own right.
She did this in JLA/Titans #3, a comic released in 1999, catching a section of ... well, the Moon, apparently. I mentioned this in one of my own threads a few years back. You can find it on the KMC thread page this links to:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=563382&pagenumber=7
Point 3, counter to what many think, some comic writers DO make a distinction between pure lifting strength and lifting in the midst of flight. Or at least one famous comic writer did, and that would be John Byrne, who for a time established that being the case for Superman.
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Source: Adventures of Superman #436, Volume 1
Writers: John Byrne & Jerry Ordway
Penciller: Jerry Ordway
Date: January 1988
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Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I doubt that's what Carver intended.The original poster (O.P.) of this thread asked for the WEAKEST character who could perform this feat, not the strongest. Nor did O.P. clarify, until many posts later, that he wanted pure physical strength, and not some alternate means.
So choices like Iron Man, and Doctor Doom, and Magneto and presumably Geo Force (I haven't proven able to examine your visuals yet, TurboImageHost and KMC etcetera have been giving problems to people today, hopefully they'll have largely cleared by the time I submit this message for posting; I'm going by what the name GeoForce implies) are/were perfectly valid.
Actually, I should be able to clear up a few issues here.
One, knowing nothing about the character except name, implied powers, and the fact that Black Adam killed her by punching straight through her body, I'd go with Terra being the weakest character who could have lifted Ayers Rock.
She was, to my current knowledge, just a teenage girl, physically.Terra's coming to mind because, two, Wonder Woman is NOT the weakest character who could lift Ayers Rock, not even if we disqualify other methods.
Wonder Woman seems, in fact, to have been able to outperform members of the Shazam family, who are pretty remarkable lifters in their own right.She did this in JLA/Titans #3, a comic released in 1999, catching a section of ... well, the Moon, apparently. I mentioned this in one of my own threads a few years back. You can find it on the KMC thread page this links to:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=563382&pagenumber=7
Point 3, counter to what many think, some comic writers DO make a distinction between pure lifting strength and lifting in the midst of flight. Or at least one famous comic writer did, and that would be John Byrne, who for a time established that being the case for Superman.
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Source: Adventures of Superman #436, Volume 1
Writers: John Byrne & Jerry Ordway
Penciller: Jerry Ordway
Date: January 1988
----------------------------------------------------------------------If the above gives problems due to TurboImageHost acting up, the following links to a page where I used KMC as my image provider:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=326316&pagenumber=65
Exactly. Why would I want anyone to bring Hulk up as the weakest person to pull this off. It's border line ridiculous. Dark doesn't even think anymore.
Also, nice scans.
Originally posted by carver9
Exactly. Why would I want anyone to bring Hulk up as the weakest person to pull this off. It's border line ridiculous. Dark doesn't even think anymore.Also, nice scans.
Btw any lifting feats w/flying doesn't seem to kosher to u?
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I doubt that's what Carver intended.The original poster (O.P.) of this thread asked for the WEAKEST character who could perform this feat, not the strongest. Nor did O.P. clarify, until many posts later, that he wanted pure physical strength, and not some alternate means.
So choices like Iron Man, and Doctor Doom, and Magneto and presumably Geo Force (I haven't proven able to examine your visuals yet, TurboImageHost and KMC etcetera have been giving problems to people today, hopefully they'll have largely cleared by the time I submit this message for posting; I'm going by what the name GeoForce implies) are/were perfectly valid.
Actually, I should be able to clear up a few issues here.
One, knowing nothing about the character except name, implied powers, and the fact that Black Adam killed her by punching straight through her body, I'd go with Terra being the weakest character who could have lifted Ayers Rock.
She was, to my current knowledge, just a teenage girl, physically.Terra's coming to mind because, two, Wonder Woman is NOT the weakest character who could lift Ayers Rock, not even if we disqualify other methods.
Wonder Woman seems, in fact, to have been able to outperform members of the Shazam family, who are pretty remarkable lifters in their own right.She did this in JLA/Titans #3, a comic released in 1999, catching a section of ... well, the Moon, apparently. I mentioned this in one of my own threads a few years back. You can find it on the KMC thread page this links to:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=563382&pagenumber=7
Point 3, counter to what many think, some comic writers DO make a distinction between pure lifting strength and lifting in the midst of flight. Or at least one famous comic writer did, and that would be John Byrne, who for a time established that being the case for Superman.
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Source: Adventures of Superman #436, Volume 1
Writers: John Byrne & Jerry Ordway
Penciller: Jerry Ordway
Date: January 1988
----------------------------------------------------------------------If the above gives problems due to TurboImageHost acting up, the following links to a page where I used KMC as my image provider:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=326316&pagenumber=65
Reread his real question.
He asked for TOP tiers. Not weakest people. TOP. Who don't have flight.
In his mind, he can't think of any. Who have lifted similar,whilst standing.
Him, the Hulk expert. Perhaps he really couldn't remember a non flying TOP TIER character who has lifted similar.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What's the difference?The size? Seriously? You're trying to tell me Superman can lift something that is approximately 1.49300 × 10 to the power of 15 TIMES more, but just because it isn't on a bar, it should be disqualified?
In comparison, you are telling me (and I am sure carver will leap in and stick his ass in the air, all lubed up and ready to cheerlead you) that I can lift 1.49 x 10^15 kg, but won't be able to lift ONE kg, because it is spread over 2 or 3 miles?
Plus post crisis Superman actually did lift up a mountain
