A pic that a friend did for me

Started by Astner4 pages

Originally posted by wuleecat
Hey, how do you know I don't know how to draw?

I'll prove it to you. Just give me 4 hours, some tracing paper


Because you're oblivious to the most basic elements of art.

When you trace something the outlines will be identical, with a very minor residual. Of course you can then edit details in your trace. But there's a limit to what you can edit. You can't edit your trace such a way that the overall angle changes or make any major pose alterations that skews the perspective.

And as any artist—or someone of average intelligence, really—could tell you, the two pictures are completely different.

But to make it even easier on you, here's an overlay of the pictures. Starlin's is red, mine is blue and the overlay is black, and the images are pinned in the right end of the right boot.

As you can see there's virtually no outline overlay beyond the few pixels where it's pinned.

Originally posted by wuleecat
I'll use the 'Hitch motif' method to come up with something that looks 99.99% identical to Hitch's original, but I'll alter the angle of the elbow by 2 degrees and maybe raise an eyebrow by a fraction.

If you're not familiar with artists using motifs then I would have to question whether or not you've been home-schooled.

Secondly it's not only the angle of of an arm that has been changed, it's the entire picture. Mine is from above the horizon, Starlin's is from beneath the horizon.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
You know, this is a great idea. I'm going to take a short story by Neil Gaiman, change the names of the characters, the setting and time it takes place, add a few sentences of my own and then put my name on it and post it on forums to prove to people what a great writer I am.

If I get called out on it, I'll just tell people they don't understand how the creative writing process works and that all I did was use Neil Gaiman as a "motif".


Again, you hailed Alex Ross as a great artist. He uses motifs, every single time.

Look, he's using it right there.

And he continues to shamelessly stack those motifs as like the camera isn't even in the room.

Clearly this guy is an amateur that should be booted out of the industry because he has no talent.

Great idea.

I reckon Alan Moore would work too. Hang on, I'm having a 'motif moment...'

"The League of Awesome Guys". Bunch of characters from literature thrown together to fight crime. First in the lineup, 'Captain Seaweed' and his incredible - indeed, extraordinary - submarine, the Golden Squid.

Geez, writing comics is just as easy as drawing them, eh?

I guess any old "dolt" can do it. (By the way, who except bad Nazi villains in an Indiana Jones movie uses the insult 'dolt'? Who is this guy, the Red Skull?)

Okay, if it's so easy to draw from a motif then draw this image from 30° above the horizon.

I'll be even nicer and tell you don't have to be too strict on the pose, light sources, the shadows or details. So you have a lot of leeway to work with. What's important is the perspective and the proportions.

It should take you about 15 minutes to sketch, so I'll give you so you have about 24 hours to finish it.

And all you really need is to take a photo of the image with the tag "By Wuleecat."

This is a pic I did at work a while a go, I was bored and had a comic with me so drew wolverine from one of the pages, was copied from a Jim Lee photo. Didn't have any pencils so had to use a pen. Think I did a pretty decent job.

Originally posted by steverules_2
This is a pic I did at work a while a go, I was bored and had a comic with me so drew wolverine from one of the pages, was copied from a Jim Lee photo. Didn't have any pencils so had to use a pen. Think I did a pretty decent job.

So would you say that was a "Jim Lee motif" you used?

😂 😂 😂

God you're dumb.

"Motif Any figure or design, when used either as the central element in a work or is repeated to create an architectural or decorative pattern. Also, a recurrent thematic element in any work."

- Lineart Glossary: M

So no, it wasn't "Jim Lee" who was the motif, it was Wolverine as depicted in Jim Lee's work.

And in my case it was Thanos—as depicted by Jim Starlin—that was the motif.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
So would you say that was a "Jim Lee motif" you used?

😂 😂 😂

Well it's not an original pic like astners

This is a terrible thread.

And not because of the OP.

Hey guys, I just drew a pic of Thanos, too!

Not gonna lie, though- I totally used Astner's pic for reference... But as you'll note, the poses are completely different. 👆

Are they? They look the same to me.

Originally posted by Galan007
Hey guys, I just drew a pic of Thanos, too!

Not gonna lie, though- I totally used Astner's pic for reference... But as you'll note, the poses are completely different. 👆

Look at the detail in his prune chin!

Those are his bedroom eyes

Originally posted by Galan007
Hey guys, I just drew a pic of Thanos, too!

Not gonna lie, though- I totally used Astner's pic for reference... But as you'll note, the poses are completely different. 👆

It seems like a 20-30 degree angle difference used there.

Totally not the same 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
Not gonna lie, though- I totally used Astner's pic for reference... But as you'll note, the poses are completely different. 👆

Agreed. I take no credit for Galan's fine work.

Well it's better than I could do... but I can't really draw anything more complex than stick figures anyway

First you don't need a reference for drawing, it depends on the artist it's not a must but makes things much easier. Also, taking some different body parts from different pictures and composing them differently to copy it is not a crime, so give him a break. I am sure he will make a video how he draws from the beginning till the end to show you that he is more than able.

I can draw, too!

Used Galan's picture for reference.

I like the use of colour

Thanks 🙂 I like your Wolverine, too. I mean it.