Originally posted by Ascendancy
The Spirit. Not sure why I forgot to mention this since people mentioned Dame, but so much wasted potential. The second 300 film wasn't wasted potential, but it definitely wasn't as good as it could have been.
Agreed to all these as well: Rise of an Empire should have been much much better, and The Spirit was Sin City with all the good stuff about Sin City taken out.
Originally posted by Kazenji
What a hypocrite Frank Miller was with that movie, He complained people tampering with his work for Robocop 2 & 3.. Yet he goes and changes things with The Spirit.
Yep I read up on that either before or after the movie was released. I remember one of the lesser (?) complaints being his trenchcoat was black instead of blue. That was a tip of the iceberg on the list of changes.
The trailer is still one of the best I've seen, compared to the actual movie, which was garbage IMO.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
The Spirit. Not sure why I forgot to mention this since people mentioned Dame, but so much wasted potential. The second 300 film wasn't wasted potential, but it definitely wasn't as good as it could have been.
A Dame to Kill For was fine. It's just that nobody SAW the damn movie when it came out.
The Spirit is ass, though. That was like watching Frank Miller's incoherent absinthe dreams.
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but all the Fantastic Four movies. Especially the latest one. I am still in a minority that doesn't hate the 2005 film, and would even call it a guilty pleasure. But Rise of the Silver Surfer and Fan4stic were horrendously bad, and all of them could have been great, considering all the source material and characters they had to draw on.
Danjaq and MGM finally settle with Kevin McClory's estate in November 2013, and what do we get: Spectre. Don't get me wrong, it's in the top half of Bond films, and it's a gorgeous, beautifully-shot movie (especially the opening sequence and the train fight), but the third act is a big step down from the rest of the film, and
Spoiler:
A) Why waste Christoph Waltz as Blofeld? Either cast a physically-imposing actor to be the massive muscle-bound genius from the books (think Telly Savalas), or have Waltz be more of a presence in the movie and not just a third act bad guy with a needless personal vendetta against Bond. Dr. No through On Her Majesty's Secret Service did it better: Blofeld wants to kill Bond/ruin his life because he keeps killing his agents. Boom. End o' story.
B) I can understand connecting Quantum to SPECTRE, but Raoul Silva should've been left alone. Makes no sense why a guy that went on a personal crusade against M would act the way he did if he was involved in a shadow government criminal organization. The power of lousy screenwriting and a computer connect-the-dots display wins the day however.
I still enjoyed the movie, but in terms of wasted movie potential, introducing
Spoiler:ranks up there at the top for me.
James Bond's equivalent of the Joker in Ernst Stavro Blofeld in such a lazy way 28 years and one legal battle later since we saw him in For Your Eyes Only
EDIT: Forgive me if spoilers are unnecessary.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but all the Fantastic Four movies. Especially the latest one. I am still in a minority that doesn't hate the 2005 film, and would even call it a guilty pleasure. But Rise of the Silver Surfer and Fan4stic were horrendously bad, and all of them could have been great, considering all the source material and characters they had to draw on.
Agreed, and Michael Chicklis was honesty pretty fantastic as The Thing in both of the movies he played in.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Agreed, and Michael Chicklis was honesty pretty fantastic as The Thing in both of the movies he played in.
Yep his version of The Thing fighting an all-out brawl with Doom was pretty cool actually. Julian McMahon's "Uh oh! How is he here, I depowered him?!" facial expression when Thing busts through the wall and yells, "It's clobberin' time!" was a great comic book movie moment and following fight sequence. Fun popcorn movie.
Rise of the Silver Surfer was a worse popcorn movie.
I like some things about the concept and even execution of Fant4stic, and I don't think it's as bad as, well, just about everyone says it is. The third act is horrendous though.
End of Days (1999)
A extreme underachievement with Arnold as the hero fighting the ultimate Villain the Devil to prevent him from destroying the Earth.
It should have been a epic supernatural horror action movie instead it's a fiasco aka a colossal embarrassment a complete failure.
Arnold as the hero fighting the Devil doesn't happen that much, and when it does it's lame, and boring. Wow self sacrificing to win how extremely somber, the Devil doesn't appear that much in his true form, the cliches of a secret society that has the internt to prevent the end of the world, the obsessed cop, a mole as in a person the audience is fooled is a good guy is a bad guy.
How this should get remade.
The hero could be a Pacifist that believes violence isn't the solution, and maybe he believes no exceptions. Hard to remain with that belief when humans are being killed by the Devil and demons.
Or the hero is a man that believes being a hero by saving a person from a burning building, or something else that requires valour that he can impress babes, date a babe and have sex with a woman removing his virginity. So yep the hero while saving humanity is doing it for a obvious selfish reason making him similar to Beowulf, or the Greek Heroes.
The Devil is shown for most of the movie in his true Demon form.
The large horns, a long tail, dragon wings, eyes with no pupils, sharp teeth, and dragon scaly skin.
As for what could be done. It could be him watching with his Demons possessing humans plus creating destruction and killing animals and humans. All this done until all humans are dead.
So the hero has to safely defeat humans that are demon possessed plus the Devil.
Also some special devices to see which humans are possessed by demons.
Or the Devil and his Demons all in their true forms are killing humans, and creating destruction. Hard for the pacifist hero to believe not a exception, and not use violence to defeat the Devil and his Demons.
The climax could be the hero fighting the Devil at Bunker Hill, inside the Rome Colosseum, center of Times Square, or a Church or some area altered to be similar to Hell, or inside Hell.