Originally posted by Digi
Here's the 2nd page but larger:
...so yeah, Bats can't trade blows with him but can "pick his shots." So yeah, stalemate, more or less. I think it was the same comic Fisk easily moved a metal door that Bats couldn't budge, so he was definitely shown to be >> in strength.Other amusing evidence:
And yes, Red Skull getting flattened? Well deserved!
Originally posted by Digi
The fight was brief and was interrupted, but KP was shown to be superior iirc, no? I remember Bruce even saying something to that effect. Maybe someone has the scan. I do...somewhere, but it's not a big enough deal for me to dig it up.
He had that one panel in which he held Bruce in the air, that's not much if you ask me.
Bruce did way better than Cap.
Re: Classic Kingpin vs. Batman h2h only
Originally posted by Facee
Fight takes place in a dark alley way in Gotham. They can only go h2h. Batman has his suit, but no belt and no cape.
If we're drawing the line at before Matt beat Fisk one on one (Which for my money, had a very OOC Fisk, and was almost a parody of himself), then Batman doesn't have much chance.
He should grapple a young 10 ton Spidey in a grip he can't break, or push him through a thick cement wall. (The "pulling my punch's"😉 excuse breaks down with grapples, especially a grapple that involves pushing someone through a solid, thick wall.)
Toss around a solid oak desk like it's foam, or rip apart steel scaffolding with his bare hands. Batmans armor won't do much against his freakish strength.
And his fists won't slow someone who can take a beating from Matt's nightstick and just stand there.
Only real hope is pressure points, and good luck with that. Kingpin has no neck, and his entire body is solid. Matt tried kicking him in vulnerable leg/lower back area, and felt like he was kicking a wall.
Originally posted by leonidas
are we assuming the fisk that got his sh!t punched in by parker is NOT classic? parker basically said he held back against fisk in the past, which made some sense. just curious how others see it.
It's also an more mature, in his prime Spidey.
Fisk basically fought a barely post-pube Spidey in his peak. But that still makes him a ten tonner or so.
And holding back wouldn't explain why Fisk could grab his ankle, and Parker would call it like a vise and be unable to break it. No one "holds back" like that.