Originally posted by Dareangel
all i know is that a form goku saved for beerus was matched by Hit. also, whis told both goku blue and vegita blue that combined they could defeat beerus. Hit is above each of them. i guess combined they would destroy Hit as well, but it puts Hit closer to beerus IMO than people think.
I doubt Vegeta and Goku teaming up would beat a serious Beerus.
Whis probably meant if they fused.
Originally posted by Inedian
Beerus would defeat Hit with such ridiculous ease that this fight really is ridiculous.
i gave explanations to my theory. why wont you do the same thing and actually back your opinion with some evidence, rather than just throw around your gut feeling and act as if its the sole truth of the universe.
Originally posted by DareangelGoku admitting they were still pawns of the Gods during the tournament.
Based on?
Black being stated to be the strongest non God character by a producer, yet being weaker than Beerus.
Goku and Hit being significantly stronger than their tournament versions in their rematch, even when Goku didn't use KK.
Originally posted by Dareangel
i gave explanations to my theory. why wont you do the same thing and actually back your opinion with some evidence, rather than just throw around your gut feeling and act as if its the sole truth of the universe.
There is no need for theories.
Hit trembled before Champa (it's confirmed that Champa is below Beerus. Beerus and Champa kicking and punching each other would destroy both universes). Goku overpowered Hit without Kaioken.
Akira said he has no intentions of Goku surpassing Beerus and Goku overpowered Hit and in battle royale it will be even more clear Goku>Hit.
Originally posted by Nevan
Goku admitting they were still pawns of the Gods during the tournament.Black being stated to be the strongest non God character by a producer, yet being weaker than Beerus.
Goku and Hit being significantly stronger than their tournament versions in their rematch, even when Goku didn't use KK.
pawns does not mean weaker. it only means being used. and you are wrong with the context. its champa who said they are pawns. after that HIT looks at him with anger and champa is scared and almost falls back.
statements mean nothing compared to actual feats which i stated. aside of that, i am preety sure even when stating something the producer could have forgoten some characters that arent gods and yet powerful enough and should kick his ass like HIT.
and? whats your point?
Originally posted by Inedian
There is no need for theories.Hit trembled before Champa (it's confirmed that Champa is below Beerus. Beerus and Champa kicking and punching each other would destroy both universes). Goku overpowered Hit without Kaioken.
Akira said he has no intentions of Goku surpassing Beerus and Goku overpowered Hit and in battle royale it will be even more clear Goku>Hit.
Wrong. when goku was about to fight HIT and shampa got mad and screamed they are nothing but pawns, just by their look champa got scared and almost fell back. if anything, its a hint at that point they could kick his ass and probably beerus as well.
again, statements are nice but HIT is no goku. he kicked gokus ass easily. then goku had to adapt and find ways. only when he used on top of his ssj blue his kio ken he evenly matched hit. and as i stated at that point, by looking at champa he was scared.
Vegeta AND Goku could have been erased by Beerus within the last 10 episodes, (Vegeta at the end of the Hit mini-arc, and Goku when he wanted to remind Zen-Oh about the tournament). Also, Whis and Beerus himself imply Beerus could have easily taken care of Black and Zamasu, whereas we know Goku and Vegeta were unable to. Finally, Arale was shown to be at LEAST on par with Goku, (probably above Goku), and Beerus oneshotted her.
Beerus stomps Hit.
Originally posted by Dareangel
Wrong. when goku was about to fight HIT and shampa got mad and screamed they are nothing but pawns, just by their look champa got scared and almost fell back. if anything, its a hint at that point they could kick his ass and probably beerus as well.again, statements are nice but HIT is no goku. he kicked gokus ass easily. then goku had to adapt and find ways. only when he used on top of his ssj blue his kio ken he evenly matched hit. and as i stated at that point, by looking at champa he was scared.
Look what XSUPREMEXSKILLZ wrote.
And the best example is the episode with Arale.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Vegeta AND Goku could have been erased by Beerus within the last 10 episodes, (Vegeta at the end of the Hit mini-arc, and Goku when he wanted to remind Zen-Oh about the tournament). Also, Whis and Beerus himself imply Beerus could have easily taken care of Black and Zamasu, whereas we know Goku and Vegeta were unable to. Finally, Arale was shown to be at LEAST on par with Goku, (probably above Goku), and Beerus oneshotted her.Beerus stomps Hit.
This. Beerus tapped his foot on the ground and took her out whereas both Vegeta and Goku had a prolong fight against her. Goku even tells her and the doctor she doesn't stand a chance against Beerus. Beerus stomps this fight with ease while walking through Hit's time stop.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Vegeta AND Goku could have been erased by Beerus within the last 10 episodes, (Vegeta at the end of the Hit mini-arc, and Goku when he wanted to remind Zen-Oh about the tournament). Also, Whis and Beerus himself imply Beerus could have easily taken care of Black and Zamasu, whereas we know Goku and Vegeta were unable to. Finally, Arale was shown to be at LEAST on par with Goku, (probably above Goku), and Beerus oneshotted her.Beerus stomps Hit.
a lot of word sthat basically dont say much. you have a gut feeling that beerus could erase the both of them? well i have a gut feeling that each of them could beat him. see? anyone can just throw around assumptions.
imply? again, it means nothing. we got whis straight up saying blue goku and blue vegita can defeat beerus. whats more than that? also HIT looking at thcampa and champa getting scared and falls back of fear.
Arale? that scene doesnt prove much. so beerus is powerful and? yes more powerful than goku and? so is HIT.
Originally posted by carver9
This. Beerus tapped his foot on the ground and took her out whereas both Vegeta and Goku had a prolong fight against her. Goku even tells her and the doctor she doesn't stand a chance against Beerus. Beerus stomps this fight with ease while walking through Hit's time stop.
so basically your logic is, beerus doing better than goku vs opponent X, therefor he will stomp HIT who also is more powerful than goku.... wow
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Vegeta AND Goku could have been erased by Beerus within the last 10 episodes, (Vegeta at the end of the Hit mini-arc, and Goku when he wanted to remind Zen-Oh about the tournament). Also, Whis and Beerus himself imply Beerus could have easily taken care of Black and Zamasu, whereas we know Goku and Vegeta were unable to. Finally, Arale was shown to be at LEAST on par with Goku, (probably above Goku), and Beerus oneshotted her.Beerus stomps Hit.
Beerus didn't oneshot Arale, what are you even talking about. He stomped the ground and her head came off, a feat Vegeta achieved also and he lost in the end. Arale was fine and would shitstomp Beerus if the fight continued, once she would put her head on again.
also watch this. beerus is getting owned easily YouTube video