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Personally, all joking aside, I thought it was quite a fitting end for the character in context. The focus was on the emotion and backstory to the duel, and not on an excessive duel itself. And I thought it worked quite well. The duel itself being more evocative of a western gunfight or an old samurai duel rather then a prequel one.
Also, considering Maul's entire arc throughout TCW and Rebels, a big epic duel wouldn't have made a lot of sense. The two series have unraveled the character. He isn't truly some big bad ass, rather he is broken and tragic man. He is trying to piece back together his life, but his inability to let go of the past prevents him from ever truly doing so. ANd the final conversation between Maul and Kenobi is great. Beyond being a nice homage to TPM ("Is He the chosen One" vs "He is the Chosen One"😉, we see these two rivals find some common ground at last.
The transition from KotOR to TOR wasn't that bad but I feel that the general plot in TOR is pretty shit. I think if they had used a more decentralized empire controlled by competing sith warlords with their own armies striking the Jedi from afar, it'd be much more immersive than two big factions that are just mirror each other.
Originally posted by ares834tbfh 👆
Personally, all joking aside, I thought it was quite a fitting end for the character in context. The focus was on the emotion and backstory to the duel, and not on an excessive duel itself. And I thought it worked quite well. The duel itself being more evocative of a western gunfight or an old samurai duel rather then a prequel one.Also, considering Maul's entire arc throughout TCW and Rebels, a big epic duel wouldn't have made a lot of sense. The two series have unraveled the character. He isn't truly some big bad ass, rather he is broken and tragic man. He is trying to piece back together his life, but his inability to let go of the past prevents him from ever truly doing so. ANd the final conversation between Maul and Kenobi is great. Beyond being a nice homage to TPM ("Is He the chosen One" vs "He is the Chosen One"😉, we see these two rivals find some common ground at last.
Rebels is lackluster for many reasons and was underwhelming long before this episode. But the episode itself was indeed bad and the duel even worse. The 2 minute stare off and silent posturing before the actual fight was cringeworthy.
Also the idea that Kenobi would feel any meaningful degree of pity for prick is silly; that connection was never developed. Maybe if more time had been dedicated to their faceoff around the campfire and an actual back and forth conversation occurred...
And yeah, the duel itself was a poor way to send off Maul. I don't mind the deconstruction of the character, but Maul was billed as one of two Big Bads this season. Once again, Rebels proves it can't handle villains well, beyond the possible exception of Vader.
Originally posted by The_Tempesthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFU3l91qpDg&t=0m50s mmm
Also the idea that Kenobi would feel any meaningful degree of pity for prick is silly; that connection was never developed.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFU3l91qpDg&t=0m50s mmm
Then he murders the love of his life lol.
Obi-Wan is an ice cold gangster who left his best friend on the side of a volcano to painfully roast to death. He's also the guy who lied to a boy to get him to murder aforementioned best friend.
The sympathy he offered Maul in this episode was undeserved for how it was executed.
Originally posted by The_TempestQuite, and yet while he was choking her with the Force Kenobi still tried to reach out for him. 20 years later and I don't see it as curious that Kenobi wouldn't be capable of offering sympathy again, rather, it's in his nature. Whereas what your essentially suggesting is that Kenobi would bear a grudge.
Then he murders the love of his life lol.Obi-Wan is an ice cold gangster who left his best friend on the side of a volcano to painfully roast to death. He's also the guy who lied to a boy to get him to murder aforementioned best friend.
The sympathy he offered Maul in this episode was undeserved for how it was executed.
And I assume your being facetious about Kenobi not having sympathy for Vader, kek. As I recall, he was spotting partying with Vader's former self at the end of ROTJ. mmm
The Old Republic is obviously shittier. It had a decent premise but they butchered Revan's character and the Sith Emperor plot languished on and on for far too long. + The Eternal Empire is the most ass pull shit I've ever seen. (Oh btw the Emperor built a secret power able to stomp both the Republic and the Empire). Basically an excuse so they didn't have to make 8 new plots. Turrible.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Nothing compares to the garbage fire that Rebels has become. It used to just be a dump but somebody's turned that sh!t into a disaster threat.
So Gehenna... a place of torture and child sacrifice, a sewage dump, and what some people believe to be an allegory for hell... sums up Rebels pretty well.
A crap fight=/ a crap story guys
It was a great episode on its own and had a great story and clever context/storytelling and solid thematic representation. The fight was rushed but even it was representative of what the story was going for, that letting go of past grudges>holding on to them.
Disney canon is mostly crap and its fair to say this fight/rivalry was too rushed(I think it deserved a movie) but the episode itself was good