Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbeOh, don't get me wrong, he's still high-level. But compared to the other Doomsday(s) and Superman, he doesn't make the cut. Which is no shame, since they're all trans level or above.
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The only objection I have. Superman with the OWAW Mindset needing more than one punch made me think that DD Rex was still uber just lacked the team to break before Supes took over. After the pic you posted I had to think about this and maybe he was even on Trans level.
Originally posted by Delta1938
They did explain Doomsday's dynamic strength as having a reverse effect when he feels fear, and Superman psyched him the **** out. Doomsday's bone protrusions even broke when he hit Superman. But where was it that Lex had grown Doomsday Rex? I had heard but never came across the storyline.
Superman v2 175.
Doomsday was basically regrown with Kryptonian DNA to the point where he had weakness to kryptonite:
http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Superman-1987/Issue-175?id=16623#16
He was Lex Luthor's property that Joker free:
http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Superman-1987/Issue-175?id=16623#30
And he 'sold' him to Darkseid:
http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Superman-1987/Issue-175?id=16623#31
http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Superman-1987/Issue-175?id=16623#32
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Nu52 Doomsday has no feats to suggest he's physically above Rebirth Doomsday.. Rebirth Doomsday was suggested also to be more powerful than the last time Dad Clark faced Doomsday.Nu52 Doomsday was such a big threat because his deathspore effect which NuSuperman was immune to. Reason why Superman was the only person on the planet able to last in a prolonged fight with NuDoomsday.
I don't see the Doomsday that was ripped apart by Nuperman being on par with the version that took several punches 400 I believe from SuperDad and wasn't really phased.
Not 400. Superman punched 4035 times in 3 panels. First panel had 3000+.
Originally posted by MightyKalEl
Not 400. Superman punched 4035 times in 3 panels. First panel had 3000+.
That's even better in Doomsday's case then. Rebirth Doomsday was ragdolling a superior version of Diana around with her own lasso.
@Philo He didn't ever grab Diana's arm so the fact Nu52 Doomsday broke it is irrelevant and doesn't suggest Rebirth Doomsday couldn't. Your also ignoring the fact NuDoomsday has an effect on everyone who wasn't Nuperman that weakened them.
And no Superspeeding punches aren't weaker that makes no sense at all. If you increase acceleration of a punch, they'll have more force.
Hell the equation of force is MassXAcceleration. Reason why Infinite Mass Punch is so deadly.
To keep it short Rebirth Superman and Rebirth Diana were getting beat up by Rebirth Doomsday. Hell Diana had panels between her fight scenes.
Nu52 Superman casually tore apart NuDoomsday. And I'm pretty sure Gleason and Jurgen's have made it point they put the Supermen on par if not that far off from each other.
Meaning big gap in physicals between Doomsday's
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
That's even better in Doomsday's case then. Rebirth Doomsday was ragdolling a superior version of Diana around with her own lasso.
It's a really impressive feat. Doomsday stopped Superman from taking his 4036th shot. I don't know why you would consider rebirth Diana greater than new52 version.
And no Superspeeding punches aren't weaker that makes no sense at all. If you increase acceleration of a punch, they'll have more force.Hell the equation of force is MassXAcceleration. Reason why Infinite Mass Punch is so deadly.
That 4035 punches were pretty powerful. It was the only time Doomsday bled in that story iirc.
To keep it short Rebirth Superman and Rebirth Diana were getting beat up by Rebirth Doomsday. Hell Diana had panels between her fight scenes.Nu52 Superman casually tore apart NuDoomsday. And I'm pretty sure Gleason and Jurgen's have made it point they put the Supermen on par if not that far off from each other.
Meaning big gap in physicals between Doomsday's
You forgot to mention Super-Lex among the characters Doomsday was stomping. I wouldn't say Nuperman casually beat Doomsday. He looked exhausted to me when he came back to Earth from Venus after burning NuDD.
Btw, how did nu52 Doomsday come back to Earth from Venus? He had teleportation?
Originally posted by MightyKalEl
It's a really impressive feat. Doomsday stopped Superman from taking his 4036th shot. I don't know why you would consider rebirth Diana greater than new52 version.
I'd say Rebirth Diana is greater given she offensively relied more on her gear than NuDiana did against NUDoomsDay. I might be wrong but I'm not sure if she was God of War when she first fought NuDoomsday either.
Rebirth Diana that's guaranteed. Rebirth Doomsday again like you said faced several characters in a handicapped type setting. NuDoomsday's only notable versus were one on one fights.
Originally posted by MightyKalEl
Diana was not GoW when she fought NuDD.
Cheetah confirms her stats increased as GOW.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Helps my case then I guess.Cheetah confirms her stats increased as GOW.
I am afraid it does not help your case. What I meant was Diana didn't remove her bracelets and transform to god mode to fight DD. She had the title of GoW at that time. Diana used god mode to take SuperDoom off the planet.