Originally posted by carver9
Vector defeated Thor by blasting him with a gust of wind, does that mean he can beat Thor in a fist cuff match? I shouldn't have to explain this to you. Hulk jumps at her and she throws a sun at him. There was no exchange of blows like she did against Thor. She did not throw her spear at Thor either because he wouldn't have dodged it (Spectrum) and he sure as hell wouldn't withstand a sun on his back. It's like saying Luke Cage is more powerful than Hulk since he had a long fight with her whereas she one paneled Hulk...At one point he was crushing her. Are you going to sit here and tell me that Luke Cage is more powerful than Hulk as well? You do know that Proxima took out Hyperion, Captain America and Captain Marvel as well? With one single ground spear smash. Let me guess. Luke Cage and Thor are above them as well? When Proxima goes fist cuff, she isn't a Hulk, sorry. You can keep throwing out there that she beat Hulk and the Avengers but make sure you bring out the context of those fights. Desperation is a terrible way to debate.
You do know why I posted showings for Proxima, Swan, and Hela in the first place don't you? It's not about lowballing or anything of that sort. It just so happens one of them(Proxima) had a an encounter with a Hulk already.
These 3 actually have feats that show their capability to hang with very powerful opponents.
Also he wouldn't need to dodge the spear. He can parry with his black uru arm(which he did), parry with Jarnbjorn(which he did), or eat one on his face(which he did).
And not sure why you're talking about Vector and asking me whether Proxima is above the likes of Hype and Hulk.. Or claiming that I constantly throw out there how she beats Hulk and Avengers. Those are silly points you're trying to throw out there.
Here's more on that fight with Cage and PM. Together they were causing shockwaves. She's hardly a lightweight.
http://www.readcomics.tv/images/manga/mighty-avengers/2/13.jpg
http://www.readcomics.tv/images/manga/mighty-avengers/2/14.jpg
http://www.readcomics.tv/images/manga/mighty-avengers/2/15.jpg
http://www.readcomics.tv/images/manga/mighty-avengers/2/16.jpg
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
facepalmYou do know why I posted showings for Proxima, Swan, and Hela in the first place don't you? It's not about lowballing or anything of that sort. It just so happens one of them(Proxima) had a an encounter with a Hulk already.
These 3 actually have feats that show their capability to hang with very powerful opponents.Also he wouldn't need to dodge the spear. He can parry with his black uru arm(which he did), parry with Jarnbjorn(which he did), or eat one on his face(which he did).
And not sure why you're talking about Vector and asking me whether Proxima is above the likes of Hype and Hulk.. Or claiming that I constantly throw out there how she beats Hulk and Avengers. Those are silly points you're trying to throw out there.
Here's more on that fight with Cage and PM. Together they were causing shockwaves. She's hardly a lightweight.
http://www.readcomics.tv/images/manga/mighty-avengers/2/13.jpg
http://www.readcomics.tv/images/manga/mighty-avengers/2/14.jpg
http://www.readcomics.tv/images/manga/mighty-avengers/2/15.jpg
http://www.readcomics.tv/images/manga/mighty-avengers/2/16.jpg
Why are you posting her fight against Cage? Cage gave her a run, someone who isn't even comparable to Hulk. Thor had a prolong fight against her, someone that was on Luke Cage level. Thor only gained an advantage via lightning...Trying to see where you are going with this.
Originally posted by carver9
Why are you posting her fight against Cage? Cage gave her a run, someone who isn't even comparable to Hulk. Thor had a prolong fight against her, someone that was on Luke Cage level. Thor only gained an advantage via lightning...Trying to see where you are going with this.
Why don't we simplify things. What has Cho done that would lead one to believe that he can take a majority on Odinson? Who has he beaten? Who has he fought that made him look impressive?
Originally posted by carver9
Proxima advantages are limitless compared to Grail imo.
Never forget the Carvatar.
Grail, who was utilising the Omega Effect, was corrupting ring wielders, stabbing Shazam, besting WW without bracelets in h2h, was messing with the Speed Force...
Who cares? Carver once kept the faith, and made it Proxima.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Never forget the Carvatar.Grail, who was utilising the Omega Effect, was corrupting ring wielders, stabbing Shazam, besting WW without bracelets in h2h, was messing with the Speed Force...
Who cares? Carver once kept the faith, and made it Proxima.
When PM is about to turn Hulk into trophy, she's better than Grail, but Thor beats her ass and suddenly she's Luke Cage level. 😂
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
When PM is about to turn Hulk into trophy, she's better than Grail, but Thor beats her ass and suddenly she's Luke Cage level. 😂
I never said she was physically on Grail level but she does have an attack that is a win for her. Thor and Luke Cage working Proxima doesn't have a thing to do with her plot driven power which she used during the onset of her fight against Hulk who wasn't even attacking her during the moment. My shoulders is here for you to cry on. 😂
Darksaint is just irrelevant.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I find it hilarious. He does the same with Imperiex Probes, and with Amazo.In one thread, PM is the bees' knees. Has 1 shot kill haxx weapons.
Thor tanks it with his face.
Now, PM is Cage level 👆
And he's not even defending the actual hulk, just the bastardized representation of what's happened to Marvel comics.
Originally posted by carver9
I never said she was physically on Grail level
True. WAIT!
Originally posted by carver9
Do you have fts of Grail punches shaking the city like Proxima and Luke Cage fight was doing? Extremely high end showing for Cage. I would love for you to match it.
I'm a troll, apparently. But I am not the one saying these things, the Carvarbot 2000 is just feeding your own statements back at you.
Originally posted by carver9
I never said she was physically on Grail level
Originally posted by carver9
Do you have fts of Grail punches shaking the city like Proxima and Luke Cage fight was doing? Extremely high end showing for Cage. I would love for you to match it.
I'm a troll, apparently. But I am not the one saying these things, the Carvarbot 2000 is just feeding your own statements back at you.