Originally posted by Damborgson
Yeah DC should be pretty far ahead.I dont know who would be Marvels best.
-Wolverine
-Cap
-Black Panther
-Daredevil
-Iron Fist???
In no particular order.
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When you take out Karate Kid, then the number two martial artist out of DC or Marvel is Batman.
Not Bruce Wayne, but rather the Batman from the 853rd Century - Batman One Million.
He is a master of martial arts from across the universe, including certain psychic styles. Not just styles from the expanded solar system, but from other worlds. This was a guy who singlehandedly took care of the entire super-prison planet of Pluto, which had the worst criminals ever.
If the best martial artist is Karate Kid, who was defeating pre-crisis Kryptonians and Daxamites, then the second best is Batman One Million.
Originally posted by riv6672
Without KK, its about even.
There's always Batman One Million.
But seriously - I agree with you, which is why I usually stay away from DC vs Marvel threads (which are usually started by fanboys with an agenda). At a macro level, both universes are equal. Sure, some have certain overhangs (e.g. DC with speedsters and Marvel with mutants), but once everything is put together and shaken out they are equal.
And again, we are talking about characters that a writer can decide are significantly stronger or weaker next week. That's the level of subjectivity at play here, which is why I don't get some fanboys (it's a real low for someone to get attached to the simplest form of literature there is - the comic book - which is just a few wrungs above a children's coloring book. Sure, they are entertaining, but definitely nothing for some to get attached to). Obviously I'm not talking about you. It's obvious who they are.
Anyway, I agree 100%. For both universes, in aggregate, it is about even. Marvel has some 'cosmic level' martial artists as well that, written well, can be a match for even KK.
I liked your post on Batman 1M, it was, like i said, interesting. I hadnt even considered him.
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At a macro level, both universes are equal. Sure, some have certain overhangs (e.g. DC with speedsters and Marvel with mutants), but once everything is put together and shaken out they are equal.
DC vs Marvel threads ...are usually started by fanboys with an agenda
Originally posted by spetznaz
When you take out Karate Kid, then the number two martial artist out of DC or Marvel is Batman.Not Bruce Wayne, but rather the Batman from the 853rd Century - Batman One Million.
He is a master of martial arts from across the universe, including certain psychic styles. Not just styles from the expanded solar system, but from other worlds. This was a guy who singlehandedly took care of the entire super-prison planet of Pluto, which had the worst criminals ever.
If the best martial artist is Karate Kid, who was defeating pre-crisis Kryptonians and Daxamites, then the second best is Batman One Million.
Forgot about him. 👆 He's a cut above everyone. I wonder who would win; KK or Batman 1M?
Originally posted by Zack M
Forgot about him. 👆 He's a cut above everyone. I wonder who would win; KK or Batman 1M?
At their respective bests? KK. The skill and speed level required to do what he was doing back then is prodigious. Additionally, he could detect weak points and use them to break the DC equivalent of adamantium at the time.
At their most recent depictions? BM1M. KK is still an amazing martial artist, but he has been made more 'human' while BM1M's far fewer appearances mean that his greatest feats are still at play (e.g. being able to split himself into several people, crazy IQ, super martial arts). Thus BM1M should win based on the most recent KK (and this is not a knock on KK in any way).
But overall, KK is numero uno.
Originally posted by Zack M
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Yeah...that seems suspect for sure. No wolverine and Karnark is really high.