Where do you rank Tenebrous?

He's not above Revan, but probably above Malak.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
(which is factually > Kyp btw)

Kyp would utterly destroy Tenebrous, lal. And Jacen only beats Durron through superior swordsmanship - he'd lose a Force battle, tbh.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
In the trash compactor.

Dude was a all time failure with mediocre feats to boot. No amount of shit scaling can change what's shown in front of us.

Even his most basic feats are quite impressive. Red sith lightning which was considered rare, as well as being a master of lightsaber combat. Designed his own starfighter and was a capable scientist.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
In which DC reveals his bias and flagrant close mindedness. ❌

Stow it, Beni. 😛

Originally posted by samappo
Even his most basic feats are quite impressive. Red sith lightning which was considered rare, as well as being a master of lightsaber combat.

Are you really posting this with a straight face? 😂

Yes, I am?

Originally posted by samappo
Yes, I am?

lmao, screenshot and saved. I never thought the stuff I use to troll Tenebrous supporters with, would actually be used as a legit argument. 😂

1. The color of someone Sith Lightning is irrelevant. The visual representation of the attack has no barring on it's destructive efficacy. Unless there is a statement declaring otherwise.

2. What? Every Jedi Master/ Sith Lord is a master of at least one lightsaber form.

Did Kyp have red lightning? No? Noted. uhuh

Kyp has black lightning, tho.

Black > Red.

Um, a 'master' of lightsaber combat is implied to be a master of all seven forms. Nowhere is someone noted to be a 'master' of lightsaber combat and not have mastery of all seven forms.

Maybe this will make it a little clearer:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t641051.html

Jinn was a renowned swordsman but that doesn't make him a master of lightsaber combat. Yoda was because he mastered all seven forms.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Kyp has black lightning.

I don't think the text actually implies that. As I recall, the strip of text you're referring to describes it as "black cracks in the force," but that could characterize any force lightning. Kind of like how Sidious is a "black hole in the Force" but still not a literal black hole, yeah?

Black > Red

Uh, no, not unless you mean to imply Jaina is above the Son. All jokes aside, though, I'm pretty sure Tenebrous' lightning is blue in the actual text.

Spoiler:
And still superior to Kyp's.

Tenebrous is by logic more powerful than any Banite Sith that came before him, which includes Zannah and Bane. He's the third last true Banite Sith, which makes him below Plagueis but still very strong.

Originally posted by samappo
Um, a 'master' of lightsaber combat is implied to be a master of all seven forms.

Except, that is literally something you just made up. Mastering, say, Form III, would still, by definition, make someone a master of lightsaber combat, even if they aren't a master of the others. Just saying someone is a master of all forms would be best as it avoids any trivial arguments over semantics and the like.

Inferior to Vader, Dooku, Revan etc.

Give me one example where someone is referred to as a master of lightsaber combat and has not mastered all seven forms. And I will concede.

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Originally posted by samappo
Give me one example where someone is referred to as a master of lightsaber combat and has not mastered all seven forms. And I will concede.

Let's see:

Anakin Skywalker.
Darth Vader.
Galen Marek.
Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Kit Fisto.
Saesee Tiin.
Agen Kolar.
Shaak Ti.
Qui-Gon Jinn.
Dooku.
Luke Skywalker.
Jacen Solo.
Jaina Solo.

Off the top of my head.

😉

Probably Vader tier

Originally posted by samappo
Give me one example where someone is referred to as a master of lightsaber combat and has not mastered all seven forms. And I will concede.