Ood Bnar (TotJ) vs. Vitiate (Revan)

She beat the Son once already.

And there's several stating the Son's power is beyond any Sith and that the Celestials have powers far ahead of other Force users, or some such sh!t.

Not canonically, just in legend from the Killiks, who weren't even present at the battle.

All of which are based around the TCW era, I believe.

Originally posted by MythLord
She must have been stronger

Therefore, it's only not true for her
8D

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Not canonically, just in legend from the Killiks, who weren't even present at the battle.

Killiks have a rich history with said Celestial beings, and were given knowledge and stories from those beings themselves. I'd put more weight on their words than yours, tbh.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
All of which are based around the TCW era, I believe.

The former is all-encompasing, IIRC.

Originally posted by MythLord
I'd put more weight on their words than yours, tbh.

For the record, if we're using anything under "Legends canon" as absolute policy like an extremely vague Kun quote to put him above Vitiate, then Darth Revan's canonically above Kun as per 2008, so the case is mute regardless.

If we're using this bullshit, I'm bringing WotC front and center. 😬

Evidence?

https://e16i.imgup.net/revand7f1.png

Emphasis on second paragraph.

This article is officially a Legends canon work. C-Canon in fact, so on par with the RotS novelization in terms of its legitimacy.

The quote specifically lists "the most powerful," not "some" or "among."

It's far more direct than the quotes you write off with Kun > Vitiate, at the very least.

Thus, Palpatine, Revan, and Caedus are canonically the three most powerful Sith as of 2008.

Vitiate and Plagueis are exempt due to later quotes putting them above Revan, but the other Sith aren't.

Since I can actually think, I have SoR Revan on par with Kun, but if we're using pure quotes, Darth Revan > Tenebrous.

Never go full retard.
It should be enough to remind everyone that they think:

a) Nomi and Sylvar can sever Vitiate.
b) Ulic Qel-Droma can 1-shot the Dark Council.

Originally posted by Geistalt
Or at least Darth Marr, assuming he's as strong as all 12 of them combined.

The Dark Council under Darth Lokess.

If Marr was at most as strong as them (and saying that Vitiate'd let a Dark Council member become that strong is retarded), Ulic should be able to 1-shot him.

Nevermind.

Never mind what?

Those are their standards.

Apparently, Ulic 1-shots Marr.

Hell; Ulic 1-shots Meetra. Freezes lightsabers on a whim.

Az silenced.

Vitiate one-shot; absolutely terrible thread.

So much autism.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
https://e16i.imgup.net/revand7f1.png

Emphasis on second paragraph.

This article is officially a Legends canon work. C-Canon in fact, so on par with the RotS novelization in terms of its legitimacy.

The quote specifically lists "the most powerful," not "some" or "among."

It's far more direct than the quotes you write off with Kun > Vitiate, at the very least.

Thus, Palpatine, Revan, and Caedus are canonically the three most powerful Sith as of 2008.

Vitiate and Plagueis are exempt due to later quotes putting them above Revan, but the other Sith aren't.

Since I can actually think, I have SoR Revan on par with Kun, but if we're using pure quotes, Darth Revan > Tenebrous.

Well, can you prove miniature game quotes are part of the actual Legends continuity, and not just part of the game's own? I recall the Bastila/Dooku/Kenobi one being solely for the game.

Also, since you said "I can actually think" then I assume you have some legitmate reason to dismiss the quote.

Also, it's not purely about quotes. Feats matter too. If a character A is deemed to be stronger via a quote than character B, but has clearly established limits via feats i.e. at max can only lift 10 tons, and if character B clearly has no such limit (has performed better feats) then the quote blatantly contradicts the source material and is rendered void.

Ant's Miniature Game Guide also states that Revan stars in the Force Unleashed. So yeah, it's C-canon now. On par with the ROTS novel in terms of legitimacy.