Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yea she's fast. But this is a featureless environment vs unknown (esp Vader) opponents. If Skywalker manages a force block/choke while she's bullrushing like an idiot she will lose her head. It's her shitty piercing durability against adamantium and a lightsaber she's gonna get wrecked if she tries to blitz.Her best best is play keep away with Vader while trying to quickly put down the muties. If she tries to melee with all three she struggles imo.
Vader's abilities ought to be common knowledge. Reason Hulk is arguably a bad matchup against Vader is because he isn't fast enough to outreact him, and because he can't fly so if Vader holds him in the air there's nothing he can do. Neither applies to WW.
Originally posted by SquallX
Right, because these have ever battled against a Multiversal being on numerous occasions and survived?Or take on a guy that held open a Boom Tube with his bare hands.
Originally posted by SquallX
Diana's average.
Your words not mine...do keep up
Originally posted by Cogito
Vader's abilities ought to be common knowledge. Reason Hulk is arguably a bad matchup against Vader is because he isn't fast enough to outreact him, and because he can't fly so if Vader holds him in the air there's nothing he can do. Neither applies to WW.
Vader's abilities aren't common knowledge. I don't see how youd get that...the force is seen as superstion in his home universe by the gen pop so no Diana wouldn't know.
Scroll back a page. I never said Diana would lose, what I said was that she'd struggle and it's far from a stomp especially given her sometimes rash nature and Vaders ambiguity. Team would have to be at their best with non jobbing Logan and tk powered Cable (Not tech powered)
Originally posted by SquallXBatman has taken on Superman in the past and survived, but deathstroke would still kick his ass. Superman has taken on Darkseid, but Doomsday is a legitimate threat that can actually kill him. We use averages, not high end showings.
Right, because these have ever battled against a Multiversal being on numerous occasions and survived?Or take on a guy that held open a Boom Tube with his bare hands.
Vader and cable could use tk to lasso her. Vader and cable could use tk to throw wolverine at her. Vader and cable could use tk to briefly hold her back and let wolverine gut her. Hell, Vader could try crushing her brain with his tk.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Classic Wolverine at his best, back when Marvel respected the character with two assists (with bfr off) would work Diana just fine.
Assuming PIS is on and she forgets she has super speed, I guess I agree. Though I guess I'm thinking of post crisis Wonder Woman.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Diana's gonna blitz Cable AND Vader? She's flash now? Don't get me wrong she has a strong likelihood of winning but she's winning casually
You don't need to be at Flashes level of speed to blitz Cable and Vader. I am not sure how fast current WW is compared to her post crisis version. The post crisis version could blitz all 3 of these people.
I still don't know what feats do or do not count, didn't DC just get rebooted again? I think I read an article that said the newest universe had merged with the post crisis one. So two different versions of certain characters merged?
Originally posted by Surtur
Assuming PIS is on and she forgets she has super speed, I guess I agree. Though I guess I'm thinking of post crisis Wonder Woman.You don't need to be at Flashes level of speed to blitz Cable and Vader. I am not sure how fast current WW is compared to her post crisis version. The post crisis version could blitz all 3 of these people.
I still don't know what feats do or do not count, didn't DC just get rebooted again? I think I read an article that said the newest universe had merged with the post crisis one. So two different versions of certain characters merged?
Quicksilver level is enough to blitz Cable, even when Cable has prep.
Originally posted by Surtur
Assuming PIS is on and she forgets she has super speed, I guess I agree. Though I guess I'm thinking of post crisis Wonder Woman.You don't need to be at Flashes level of speed to blitz Cable and Vader. I am not sure how fast current WW is compared to her post crisis version. The post crisis version could blitz all 3 of these people.
I still don't know what feats do or do not count, didn't DC just get rebooted again? I think I read an article that said the newest universe had merged with the post crisis one. So two different versions of certain characters merged?
Pis is never on. I think you're over exaggerating how formidable a blitz is or the likelihood of her doing so. She's gonna one shot all three characters before any have a chance to do so even though both Nate/Anakin have force fields and all three exceptional reflexes?
Originally posted by Surturare you suprised at this point? DC considers feats first and story second. Their writing is good now, but when it starts to seem like it's not good or sales are low, they'll reboot it again. With that said, marvel is currently sucking as a whole far more.
Nobody is going to weigh in on how DC just seemed to randomly reboot their universe again?
Originally posted by deathslash
are you suprised at this point? DC considers feats first and story second. Their writing is good now, but when it starts to seem like it's not good or sales are low, they'll reboot it again. With that said, marvel is currently sucking as a whole far more.
It just seems like they usually massively hype these reboots, but this just seemed to come out of nowhere. Also what was even the point? They just rebooted like 5 years ago.
Not to mention it's a confusing reboot. Who gets what feats? Does Superman now have the feats of both post crisis Superman and Nu Superman?