Originally posted by carthage
They hate us due to constant involvement regime change, bombings, military interventions, sanctions, and genuinely killing them by the thousands. Not hard to see why case in point US foreign policy from 2000-2017
This.
Virtually every s##tstorm in the region can be traced back to something we did prior. The current instability over there is still due to the power vacuum left when we took out Saddam. Something Bush Sr knew was a bad idea but unfortunately his son never learned.
One more example of which you could list many.
In 1953 we (along with the Brits) helped overthrow the lawfully elected Iranian prime minister Mossadegh because he wasn't quite as friendly to western oil companies as we liked. Wanted to audit the books so to speak on how they had been conducting business over there. (Google Operation Ajax) So we helped orchestrate a coup and installed the Shah of Iran. Since we were responcible for placing and keeping him in power we were also blamed along with him by all the groups opposing him in Iran for anything he did to piss them off. So when the opposition groups finally ousted him they weren't just anti Shah people they were thoroughly anti American as well.
End result? By needlessly farting around with a foreign countries sovereign leader we set in motion events that transformed a country that had never been openly hostile to the USA before into one that openly despised us. And they have been a major sponsor of terrorism and anti American activities ever since.
For extra credit look into western countries actually forming the country of Iraq in the first place. It never existed until after WW1. And many of the groups in the region had no desire to be in a country with one another.
Look into our involvement in Afghanistan during the Russian invasion. Look at some of the people we armed and supported and what they went on to be after the Russians left. We operated under a policy then that "The Enemy of My Enemy is My Friend". A completely ignorant policy because as we learned sometimes the enemy of your enemy is an equally foul piece of sh##.
Do yourself a favor and read a book called "Blowback: The Costs and Consequences of American Empire" by Chalmers Johnson.
It's a real eye opener.
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
^ You are stupid.
Not only that, but the "not all muslims" excuse is f*cktarded.
Like for instance, most Germans were not Nazi's. So obviously that all turned out okay.
Remember, it took just a few muslims to kill thousands of people on 9/11, just a few. We have over a billion muslims, let us say only 5% are extremists. 5% sure sounds low, but 5% of 1 billion is still millions upon millions of people. So again, it took just a few to kill thousands, and there are potentially millions more where that came from.
That's kinda why the term "Islamaphobia" is stupid. It's not a phobia when you have potentially millions of extremists., it's common sense.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
germany is not a religion, special guy.
Nobody said it was and that wasn't the point, special guy. Point was even a small minority can f*ck up the world for everyone.
Now please give me some faith you have a bit of intelligence: you knew that, right? You knew overall the point I was making? I'd feel better if you knew and were just trolling, as opposed to a complete lack of comprehension on your part.
Though I suppose if you didn't know the benefit of that is how silly you will look in the future anytime you insult the intelligence of others.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
germany was led by the nazi party. there is no central leadership for islam. but have fun trying to ape logic and reason. 👆
Not all Germans were nazis. A small minority was able to come to power and f*ck up the world.
The nazis also had something very akin to a religious fervor when it came to Hitler, the 1,000 year reich, the purity of the german people, etc.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
again, all german citizens were under a single centralized leadership. islam is not. your argument is pure dogshit. but i suppose if you're too dumb to comprehend that, it means you win again 👆
My point is that a minority was able to f*ck up the world.
You've officially lost all right to insult the intellect of others lol. So please continue to do so.
Originally posted by Surtur
Not only that, but the "not all muslims" excuse is f*cktarded.Like for instance, most Germans were not Nazi's. So obviously that all turned out okay.
Remember, it took just a few muslims to kill thousands of people on 9/11, just a few. We have over a billion muslims, let us say only 5% are extremists. 5% sure sounds low, but 5% of 1 billion is still millions upon millions of people. So again, it took just a few to kill thousands, and there are potentially millions more where that came from.
That's kinda why the term "Islamaphobia" is stupid. It's not a phobia when you have potentially millions of extremists., it's common sense.
Proof that even 5% of Muslims are terrorist? That would be 80,000,000 terrorist, oh my.
Cos if your maths is correct, the world would be an entirely different place. Or could it possibly be that you're just fear mongering while shitting yourself?
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
again, all german citizens were under a single centralized leadership. islam is not. your argument is pure dogshit. but i suppose if you're too dumb to comprehend that, it means you win again 👆
As you've advised me more than once: have you tried explaining it in crayon?
Originally posted by Surtur
Not only that, but the "not all muslims" excuse is f*cktarded.Like for instance, most Germans were not Nazi's. So obviously that all turned out okay.
Remember, it took just a few muslims to kill thousands of people on 9/11, just a few. We have over a billion muslims, let us say only 5% are extremists. 5% sure sounds low, but 5% of 1 billion is still millions upon millions of people. So again, it took just a few to kill thousands, and there are potentially millions more where that came from.
That's kinda why the term "Islamaphobia" is stupid. It's not a phobia when you have potentially millions of extremists., it's common sense.
Did you read this?
Originally posted by Todd1700
This.Virtually every s##tstorm in the region can be traced back to something we did prior. The current instability over there is still due to the power vacuum left when we took out Saddam. Something Bush Sr knew was a bad idea but unfortunately his son never learned.
One more example of which you could list many.
In 1953 we (along with the Brits) helped overthrow the lawfully elected Iranian prime minister Mossadegh because he wasn't quite as friendly to western oil companies as we liked. Wanted to audit the books so to speak on how they had been conducting business over there. (Google Operation Ajax) So we helped orchestrate a coup and installed the Shah of Iran. Since we were responcible for placing and keeping him in power we were also blamed along with him by all the groups opposing him in Iran for anything he did to piss them off. So when the opposition groups finally ousted him they weren't just anti Shah people they were thoroughly anti American as well.
End result? By needlessly farting around with a foreign countries sovereign leader we set in motion events that transformed a country that had never been openly hostile to the USA before into one that openly despised us. And they have been a major sponsor of terrorism and anti American activities ever since.
For extra credit look into western countries actually forming the country of Iraq in the first place. It never existed until after WW1. And many of the groups in the region had no desire to be in a country with one another.
Look into our involvement in Afghanistan during the Russian invasion. Look at some of the people we armed and supported and what they went on to be after the Russians left. We operated under a policy then that "The Enemy of My Enemy is My Friend". A completely ignorant policy because as we learned sometimes the enemy of your enemy is an equally foul piece of sh##.
Do yourself a favor and read a book called "Blowback: The Costs and Consequences of American Empire" by Chalmers Johnson.
It's a real eye opener.
Honest question though, if they dislike us because of what we did in terms of contributing to the instability of the region well..what about Sweden? What is their issue with Sweden? They seem far more welcoming than the USA as well, and still they get shit on with terrorist attacks.
Almost like they really don't care who they attack and they use the past behavior of the West in order to justify their barbarism.