How Many Scandals is usual for a President in their entire term

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
I don't need to grant you a response when you fail to actually respond to what I said. I gave specific examples to prove my point. You said, "you're wrong" without providing any actual proof.

If you're going to resort to ad hominem, at least do so properly.

Not a single poster claiming Trump has been treated worse than Obama has provided actual proof. I have.

As it stands, my argument is, by default, a stronger argument.

You're just wrong, though. Absolutely and proportionally to approval ratings, Trump was still given much more negative treatment.

http://www.journalism.org/2017/10/02/covering-president-trump-in-a-polarized-media-environment/pj_2017-10-02_trump-first-100-days_0-06/

Your bias is so incredibly thick against Trump that even obvious things such as how much libtards hate Trump is lost on you. It is well-documented how nicely Obama was treated: he was "cool." Very few people were Birthers. Very few people cried about him being a "Muzzie." It was the media and libtards who gave those very small minorities a loud voice.

You'll never win this argument: it is too well-documented against you.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You're just wrong, though. Absolutely and proportionally to approval ratings, Trump was still given much more negative treatment.

You've still failed to address my point:

This notion that Trump being attacked on what he says, on the basis of policy, and on the basis questionable conduct is worse than Obama being attacked on the basis of race and religion is asinine.

And yes, Obama received more positive coverage than Trump. That isn't because of bias, that's because Obama did significant sh!t worthy of positive coverage, like stabilizing the American economy, bringing down unemployment, killing Osama Bin Laden, revitalizing the car industry, repealing discriminatory policy in the military, and implementing net neutrality(I'm leaving off topics of controversy like health care).

Trump getting negative coverage because of his own incompetence, inability to successfully push legislation, and the ineffectiveness of his policies is not unfair, is totally deserved. Trump deserves negative coverage regarding the shadiness of his administration. He deserves negative coverage for saying stupid sh!t and being a blatant liar.

Trump getting negative coverage isn't him getting treated worse, it's him deserving worse coverage.

Obama getting attacked on the basis of race, religion and sh!t is being treated worse, not deserving worse coverage.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Well, yes, negative actions result in negative coverage.

You've still failed to address my point:

And yes, Obama received more positive coverage than Trump. That isn't because of bias, that's because Obama did significant sh!t worthy of positive coverage, like stabilizing the American economy, bringing down unemployment, killing Osama Bin Laden, revitalizing the car industry, repealing discriminatory policy in the military, and implementing net neutrality(I'm leaving off topics of controversy like health care).

Trump getting negative coverage because of his own incompetence, inability to successfully push legislation, and the ineffectiveness of his policies is not unfair, is totally deserved. Trump deserves negative coverage regarding the shadiness of his administration. He deserves negative coverage for saying stupid sh!t and being a blatant liar.

Trump getting negative coverage isn't him getting treated worse, it's him deserving worse coverage.

Obama getting attacked on the basis of race, religion and sh!t is being treated worse, not deserving worse coverage.

That's an awful lot of words but not once did I read "I was wrong, I apologize."

Do you want to try again or do you think Obama was given less passes than Trump?

Originally posted by dadudemon
but not once did I read

Let's try this again Double D:

This notion that Trump being attacked on what he says, on the basis of policy, and on the basis questionable conduct is worse than Obama being attacked on the basis of race and religion is asinine.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Trump getting negative coverage isn't him getting treated worse, it's him deserving worse coverage.

Obama getting attacked on the basis of race, religion and sh!t is being treated worse, not deserving worse coverage.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Figures

Let's try this again Double D:

Address what I say or don't address me at all.

Nope. Ignored. I will not address this part of your post. You addressed me and my point. You do not get to move the discussion to where you want it because you do not like the fact that I was right.

To remind you before you tried to play this game with me, you said this:

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Surt apparently can grasp that the attacks levied against Obama were worse than those levied against Trump.

You're wrong.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Nope. Ignored. I will not address this part of your post.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You addressed me and my point.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You do not get to move the discussion .

Originally posted by dadudemon
Nope. Ignored. I will not address this part of your post. You addressed me and my point. You do not get to move the discussion to where you want it because you do not like the fact that I was right.

People hate Trump because he demonizes minorities and disrespects women, people hate Obama because "he was born in Kenya and is a muslim jihadist". Come on now

trump is being treated worse by more visible outlets. aside from all the stupid shiit on Fox and talk radio Obama was treated like the coolest dude in the world.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Lol you're right, the general population hates Trump at a much higher rate than they hated Obama... If you're saying this is a result of liberal bias you'd be wrong, it's a result of Trump being a massive cum dumpster.

People hate Trump because he demonizes minorities and disrespects women, people hate Obama because "he was born in Kenya and is a muslim jihadist". Come on now

nah. trump is demonized because most television news stations are liberal and demonize republicans. people are stoopid. they go with the narrative they are fed and form their perspective around it.

just like president Obama was cool and suave on the major networks but a possibly g ay elitist on talk radio. different party...different treatment.

Originally posted by Raisen
trump is being treated worse by more visible outlets. aside from all the stupid shiit on Fox and talk radio Obama was treated like the coolest dude in the world.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Trump and Obama are not equal. Trump is being treated worse because he IS worse.

that's your opinion but oh well

Still waiting for someone to address this:

This notion that Trump being attacked on what he says, on the basis of policy, and on the basis questionable conduct is worse than Obama being attacked on the basis of race and religion is asinine.

what trump says is constantly skewed to work the dummies up into a money making fervor

what about his policies?

questionable conduct is still not proven. innocent until proven guilty.

he was painted as a white racist partly just because he happened to be white and didn't disapprove of somebody in a particular way. silliness

trump has also been called fake religious enough times

so.........
this all depends on your perspective. you find it thrilling to hate trump and watch the drama. just like fox bots liked the obama drama. same shiit to me. i've got no dog in either of those fights. just logic

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Ooh, edgy.

It's a shame that you're incapable of doing the same.

I did not move the discussion. This is what the discussion was. We were discussing who was treated worse, you're trying to shift this discussion to who received more negative coverage. I think you're intelligent enough to grasp the distinction.

Try harder, still won't work. You were wrong.

No matter how you mix and match it up, you're wrong in every which way.

Here's the nail in your coffin:

http://news.gallup.com/poll/220262/trump-presidency-draws-strong-support-stronger-opposition.aspx

Would look at that? Exactly my point from yet another angle. 🙂

Do you even remember my point?

So...this mountain of data, piece after piece after piece, surmounting against your point.

And you tried, so so so hard to move the goal posts to be a different discussion. But it did not work. I am positive that this game you just tried to play works on others and you thought it would work on me.

So you can keep requoting yourself and ask for people to "address your point" but no one gives a shit about you sad attempt to move the goal posts except your cheer leader. You ****ed up, dude. Severely. You just chose the wrong anti-Trump position, this time.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Lol you're right, the general population hates Trump at a much higher rate than they hated Obama... If you're saying this is a result of liberal bias you'd be wrong, it's a result of Trump being a massive cum dumpster.

People hate Trump because he demonizes minorities and disrespects women, people hate Obama because "he was born in Kenya and is a muslim jihadist". Come on now

You can come up with as many reasons as you want. Describing reasons like those, we would probably agree on almost every single point. But that's not what this is about. "Reasons" why I'm right are not necessary.

Edit - haermm

Originally posted by dadudemon
"address your point" but I don't give a shit

http://news.gallup.com/poll/220262/trump-presidency-draws-strong-support-stronger-opposition.aspx

In other words, this is another example of when

you tried, so so so hard to move the goal posts to be a different discussion. But it did not work. I am positive that this game you just tried to play works on others and you thought it would work on me.

Originally posted by Raisen
what trump says is constantly skewed

what about his policies?

Overseeing an EPA that values corporate interests over science?

Trying to get rid of net neutrality?

Trying and failing to force through a terrible healthcare bill that was widely unpopular and opposed by independent health organizations?

What has Trump done that warrants positive coverage?

Originally posted by Raisen
questionable conduct is still not proven. innocent until proven guilty.

Originally posted by Raisen
he was painted as a white racist partly just because he happened to be white

http://nmpoliticalreport.com/779459/in-event-to-honor-code-talkers-trump-calls-senator-pocahontas-in-front-of-portrait-of-andrew-jackson/

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html?mtrref=www.rollingstone.com&gwh=1921B65EC42B4EA73F9619ED3CD81046&gwt=pay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlpaEXWe3Zs

Originally posted by Raisen
trump has also been called fake religious enough times

Originally posted by Raisen just bullsh!t false equivalencies

wtf?

where did that last quote from me come from?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
A shame, as my point is relevant to the discussion, while your tangent about Trump's popularity, was not.

Unfortunately Double D, we were not discussing his popularity or his public support. We were discussing how badly he was being treated.

Even with glaring evidence that Trump has far far more detractors, even when approval ratings are the same, you still clutch onto your pile of shit. But why?