Originally posted by carver9Not asking what his 'potential' speed is. I am asking what speed he's actually capped at most of the time.
Lol...light speed but his durability holds him back from going that fast. Anyways, Northstar takes this. Good fight though.
I ask because Jay's speed has been capped just below light speed in some of his more recent [pre-Flashpoint] appearances, as his body simply begins giving out due to old age... Not that raw speed is his only option, mind you, I am just curious about Northstar, is all.
it's just shy of light speed but i think he's reached it before. jay didn't hit c too often in his later appearances, but he was certainly capable of it if needed and he exceeded it a couple times too. it would be a pretty even fight, but like i said, jay is just smarter, more experienced and has too many tricks to fall back on. and please man, i'm begging you, do me the courtesy of kindly NOT quoting carv. i just can't handle it. lol
Originally posted by Ambient
What's Jay counter if NS takes the fight in the air and bombards him with energy blast?
Speed steal jay doesnt like using it and has stated he thinks it's cheating but he does use it as frequently as Wally in fact if you consider how often he used it to amp Bart more so.
So he wont steal the speed to use but would to hamper.
Speed wise they are pretty much peers. Both can go just faster than light when needed but dont. NS due to durability, Jay due to his age and heart condition so cant stay that speed for long.
Jay uses wind vortexes etc more than any other flash in solo stories excpet MAYBE Barry who at best would use them as often. This gives him a ranged attack to match NS
Jay also uses vibration to pass thru things which if anything would be what gives him the slight edge.
Jay also has the MOST scientific approach to speed of anyone. He was afterall the one who had to dumb down and explain Zooms time shift to the rest of the flash family.
I'd say a slight nod to Jay but can see NS taking it underncertain conditions
Originally posted by Galan007
Not asking what his 'potential' speed is. I am asking what speed he's actually capped at most of the time.I ask because Jay's speed has been capped just below light speed in some of his more recent [pre-Flashpoint] appearances, as his body simply begins giving out due to old age... Not that raw speed is his only option, mind you, I am just curious about Northstar, is all.
Also with his children of vault upgrade. He lost it but then got another upgrade which is the level the above scan is and still has
Concerning his durability
Originally posted by beatboks
Speed steal jay doesnt like using it and has stated he thinks it's cheating but he does use it as frequently as Wally in fact if you consider how often he used it to amp Bart more so.So he wont steal the speed to use but would to hamper.
Speed wise they are pretty much peers. Both can go just faster than light when needed but dont. NS due to durability, Jay due to his age and heart condition so cant stay that speed for long.
Jay uses wind vortexes etc more than any other flash in solo stories excpet MAYBE Barry who at best would use them as often. This gives him a ranged attack to match NS
Jay also uses vibration to pass thru things which if anything would be what gives him the slight edge.
Jay also has the MOST scientific approach to speed of anyone. He was afterall the one who had to dumb down and explain Zooms time shift to the rest of the flash family.
I'd say a slight nod to Jay but can see NS taking it underncertain conditions
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Think aurora would be more of a challenge
