who is the definite character for each of these tiers?
in terms of power/skill/reputation and lip service who is the face of each of these named tiers? for example, like when you think of the street tier bracket who is the one who embodies everything in that bracket TO YOU ?
Tier 1 - Street
Low
Mid
High
Tier 2 - Meta.
Low
Mid
High
Tier 3 - Herald.
Low
Mid
High
Tier 4 - Trans.
Low
Mid
High
Tier 5 - skyfather.
Low
Mid
High
Tier 6 - cosmic.
Low
Mid
High
Tier 7 - Abstract.
Low
Mid
High
Re: who is the definite character for each of these tiers?
Originally posted by ghostman
in terms of power/skill/reputation and lip service who is the face of each of these named tiers? for example, like when you think of the street tier bracket who is the one who embodies everything in that bracket TO YOU ?Tier 1 - Street
Low: Black Widow...
Mid: Robin...
High: Batman...
Tier 2 - Meta.
Low: Spiderman...
Mid: Rogue...
High: Dracula...
Tier 3 - Herald.
Low: Jack of Hearts...
Mid: Wonder Woman...
High: Silver Surfer...
Tier 4 - Trans.
Low: Collector...
Mid: Runner...
High: Thanos...
Tier 5 - skyfather.
Low: Grandmaster...
Mid: Serpent...
High: Odin...
Tier 6 - cosmic.
Low: Average Celestial...
Mid: Galactus...
High: Tiamut...
Tier 7 - Abstract.
Low: Love/Hate...
Mid: Order/Chaos...
High: Living Tribunal...
I'm too lazy to rewrite everything, but I will use your format; all edits are mines of course...
Re: who is the definite character for each of these tiers?
Tier 1 - Street
Low
: Robin
Mid
: punisher
High
: Captain America
Tier 2 - Meta.
Low
: Wolverine
Mid
: Spider-Man
High
: Thing
Tier 3 - Herald.
Low
: Iron man
Mid
: Beta Ray Bill
High
: Superman
Tier 4 - Trans.
Low
: Thanos
Mid
: Mangog
High
: Superboy Prime
Tier 5 - skyfather.
Low
: Mephisto
Mid
: Guardians of the universe
High
: Darkseid
Tier 6 - cosmic.
Low
: Galactus
Mid
: Anti Monitor
High
: Spectre
Tier 7 - Abstract.
Low
: Endless
Mid
: Living Tribunal
High : Lucifer Morningstar /Michael Demiurgos
Re: who is the definite character for each of these tiers?
Originally posted by ghostman
in terms of power/skill/reputation and lip service who is the face of each of these named tiers? for example, like when you think of the street tier bracket who is the one who embodies everything in that bracket TO YOU ?Tier 1 - Street
Low Punisher
Mid Robin
High Batman/Captain America
Tier 2 - Meta.
Low Spiderman
Mid Lizard, Venom, Rhino
High Colossus, Thing
Tier 3 - Herald.
Low Namor/Aquaman
Mid Wonderman/Hercules/Wonder Woman
High Silver Surfer/Thor/Superman
Tier 4 - Trans.
Low Sundipped Superman, HP Doomsday, WBH
Mid Superboy Prime
High Void Sentry
Tier 5 - skyfather.
Low Lord Marvel
Mid Thanos
High Odin
Tier 6 - cosmic.
Low Tenebrous Aegis
Mid Celestials
High Galactus
Tier 7 - Abstract.
Low Love/Hate
Mid Chaos Order
High Eternity/Death
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman is the benchmark for heralds and heavy hitters in general.You don't get "he is almost as powerful as Silver Surfer" to reference characters power level.
The tier as named by kmc informally however many years ago is named after heralds of galactus. Not "x"-el tier.
That tier was so named because the heralds were the benchmark for feats, not superman. You don't like it, you should have been around when the tiers were being made.
Tier 1 - Street
Low - Robin
Mid - Daredevil
High - Batman
Tier 2 - Meta.
Low - Black Panther
Mid - Spider-Man
High - Sasquatch
Tier 3 - Herald.
Low - Namor/Aquaman
Mid -Captain Marvel(Shazam), Wonder Woman
High - Superman
Tier 4 - Trans.
Low - Void Sentry
Mid - Thanos
High - SBP
Tier 5 - skyfather.
Low - Zeus (Marvel)
Mid - Odin
High - Darkseid
Tier 6 - cosmic.
Low -Watchers, Stranger
Mid - Galactus, Imperiex
High - Celestials
Tier 7 - Abstract.
Low - In-Betweener
Mid - Mr. Mxyzptlk
High - Living Tribunal, Lucifer Morningstar /Michael Demiurgos
OP doesn't quite define criteria well enough for my liking. So I think we're getting different answers. Am I identifying the median (whoever is the most solidified in that tier and none other)? Or the best/most powerful in the tier? Or the one who has the most recognition at that particular power level?
When the tiers first started, some were book-ended by characters. Trans. was anything under Odin. And High Herald was "Equal to or below Surfer." Surfer literally defined the upper limit of a tier. Others were - and continue to be - more nebulous. We tried the same for a while with High Meta and Iron Man, for example, but his armors kept getting better and we eventually had to scrap it. I think he's currently listed low herald.
Additionally, keep in mind that these particular tiers are entirely a KMC construct. They don't exist in the wider comic world, notably in the minds of any writer. I also don't think even KMC has anything resembling defined strictures on OP's tier 6 and 7. We've never really gone beyond Odin, and I'm not even sure what "Cosmic" means in that context.
Re: who is the definite character for each of these tiers?
Tier 1 - Street
Low: Daredevil
Mid: Batman
High: Captain America
Tier 2 - Meta.
Low: Wolverine
Mid:
High: Ms. Martian
Tier 3 - Herald.
Low: Magneto
Mid: Orion
High: Silver Surfer
Tier 4 - Trans.
Low: Savage Hulk
Mid: Thanos
High: Monarch
Tier 5 - skyfather.
Low: Gog
Mid: King Thor
High: Odin
Tier 6 - cosmic.
Low: Galactus
Mid: Spectre
High: LT
Tier 1 - Street
Low: Alfred
Mid: Robin
High: Captain America/Batman
Tier 2 - Meta.
Low: Wolverine
Mid: Spiderman
High: F4
Tier 3 - Herald.
Low: Iron Man
Mid: Wonder Woman
High: Superman
Tier 4 - Trans.
Low: Classic Strange/Dr. Fate
Mid: Thanos
High: Mangog
Tier 5 - skyfather.
Low: King Thor
Mid: Zeus
High: Odin
Tier 6 - cosmic.
Low: Galactus (average)
Mid: Celestials
High: Imperiex
Tier 7 - Abstract.
Low: In-Betweener
Mid: Endless (DC), Death/Eternity/Infinity/Oblivion (Marvel)
High: LT, Spectre (high), Michael/Lucifer
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
The tier as named by kmc informally however many years ago is named after heralds of galactus. Not "x"-el tier.
Maybe. But that doesn't makes Surfer the highest herald by default. Just like Superman's initials in superstrength and superspeed make him strongest or fastest.
That tier was so named because the heralds were the benchmark for feats, not superman. You don't like it, you should have been around when the tiers were being made.
Those are bygone days when Surfer was wanked to hell.
Again, having the tiers made as herald category doesn't makes the heralds above everyone.
Not unless you think Terrax and Firelord are some kind of badasses.
Originally posted by DigiWhen the tiers first started, some were book-ended by characters. Trans. was anything under Odin. And High Herald was "Equal to or below Surfer." Surfer literally defined the upper limit of a tier.
Then Superman should be above herald category by default because Surfer is just a wuss all things considered.
Originally posted by abhilegendHis limitations are the reason Silver surfer was thought of as the "source wall" between man and god: Hulk can't do a lot of things whereas Surfer can do pretty much everything everyone else can plus more. We all know this and wouldn't complain about it
Heh, until you realize Hulk wasn't even a high herald and placed in mid herald category.durimshot
Originally posted by psycho gundam
His limitations are the reason Silver surfer was thought of as the "source wall" between man and god: Hulk can't do a lot of things whereas Surfer can do pretty much everything everyone else can plus more. We all know this and wouldn't complain about it
Yeah, right. So you are basically saying versatility trumps all? Surfer is versatile but lacks the raw power of Hulk and that has been shown time and time again.
Hulk being below high herald list is pure nonsense.