Quicksilver Vs Twilight Vampire (Main cast)

Originally posted by FrothByte
Why? As King said, it's very hard to actually find numbers for their speeds, so what are you basing this on when you say they aren't close?

I'll tell you something we can base it on: visual speed. QS is so fast he appears as a blur, but he is still visible. The vamps are so fast that they appear as a blur, but still visible. The difference is that the vamps appear as a blur even in slow motion, meaning they should even be faster in real time.

As for strength and durability, QS smashed into Hawkeye and Cap, neither got seriously hurt. QS is not hurting the vamps. He smashed through the Iron Legion because the Iron Legion were made of multiple parts that broke apart when he smashed through them. It's not like he ripped apart a solid chest plate from one of the Iron Legion or something.

It also doesn't matter that the vamps only seem to engage superspeed in short bursts, a short burst is all you need to dodge an attack and launch a punch to shatter QS's face.

Originally posted by KingD19
Wrong.

Don't base it on visual speed, because fast things look fast. Base it on their actual feats.

In the roughly 5 seconds it took Edward to cross maybe...40-60 feet between him and Bella in that parking lot to save her...Quicksilver had run hundreds of feet and saved dozens of people, pushing them out of the way of the train.

Directly comparable.

Also he clearly wasn't trying to kill Cap or Hawkeye. He was f*cking around the entire time. That's why like an idiot he tried to grab Mjolnir, because it looked cool. That's also why Cap got jabbed in the chin, while the Iron Legion were punched and kicked apart by Pietro.

Moving Slow Mo while in Slow Mo is unquantifiable. Watching a bullet slowly fly past your face is.

I'll rewatch the parking lot scene later before I reply to the speed comment.

Let's focus on durability for the moment. Did QS EVER tear apart any solid metal parts from an Iron Legion? Or did he just smash through them such that their parts came apart? If you can post a link to him actually destroying a solid steel piece from an Iron legion then you might have an argument. Otherwise, the vamps are tough enough to easily break concrete, rock and marble by knocking into them. You're going to have to prove that Pietro is strong enough to do so. Because even if he wasn't trying to kill Cap, you'd at least expect him to hit hard enough that Cap actually looks hurt.

Originally posted by Mindset
Because based off quantifiable feats QS has shown to be faster.

So quantify them. Give me an estimate of how fast QS was moving and how fast vamps were moving.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So quantify them. Give me an estimate of how fast QS was moving and how fast vamps were moving.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So quantify them. Give me an estimate of how fast QS was moving and how fast vamps were moving.

QS clearly runs, moves and thinks many times faster than a bullet, and does so for extended periods.

There's nothing indicating the Vampires were that fast. And the speed they do have seems to be short blitzes. Though admittedly I'm no Twilight expert.

Originally posted by Mindset
No.

😆

Originally posted by Mindset
No.

That's because they're not quantifiable, unlike what you claim.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
QS clearly runs, moves and thinks many times faster than a bullet, and does so for extended periods.

There's nothing indicating the Vampires were that fast. And the speed they do have seems to be short blitzes. Though admittedly I'm no Twilight expert.

Short bursts are all you need to dodge a punch and counter punch.

I'm not claiming that vamps are as fast as QS. I'm claiming they're fast enough that they'll eventually land hits. QS does not have the feats to show that he can even hurt them. Are you people really telling me that QS can beat a group of vampires, all with super speed of their own, who are strong enough to uproot a tree and break rocks from arm wrestling each other, durable enough to easily break marble and concrete.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So quantify them.

He moved several meters, let's say like three, in the time it took a bullet to move what couldn't have been more than ten centimeters.

He would have had to have been moving 30 times faster than the bullet to accomplish this assuming my values are correct (I intentionally lowballed, the distance he traveled was more than three meters), making him over mach 30 fairly easily, depending on the type of handgun (glock muzzle velocity is 375 meters per second).

What do the Twivamps have going for them speed-wise?

So quicksilver is much faster than even superman

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
So quicksilver is much faster than even superman

The problem is Jasper and their durability. Those two factors give the vamps a win. I see people are using highest feats as the standard. That's a good thing. Keep it up.

The vampires haven't shown speed on the level of QS even in short bursts. Heck they note Edward as being the fastest and his best speed feats do not compare.

Though yes there is the issue of overcoming durability.

^ Well QS did punch around Cap pretty easily.

Yeah, but Cap doesn't even compare to Edward, physically speaking.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Superman easily breaks mach 10,000 in Man of Steel, much less in more powerful iterations of the character like the Reeves version.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Superman easily breaks mach 10,000 in Man of Steel, much less in more powerful iterations of the character like the Reeves version.