Action Figure Quotes

Gonna be an Ant and post some action figure quotes.

Yoda:

The oldest member of the Jedi Council. Yoda is a wise and cautious Jedi Master - When Obi-Wan informs the Council of the Separatists' plans - Yoda assembles the Clone Army to subdue the rebellion. Yoda's unassuming size masks his enormous powers. His skills in The Force are not limited to wisdom and guidance - but are matched by his dexterity and fighting prowess.

-- Jedi Master - Star Wars SAGA Series, 2002

Anakin Skywalker:

During the epic battle on Geonosis - Anakin Skywalker duels with the evil Darth Tyranus within a secret hangar. Anakin demonstrates his tremendous power by wielding both his and Obi-Wan's lightsabers to battle the skilled Sith Lord - who fights in the classic "old style" of ages past.

-- Hangar Duel - Star Wars SAGA Series, 2002

The Separatists have kidnapped Chancellor Palpatine and are fleeing Coruscant with their hostage. Boarding the enemy vessel - Anakin and Obi-Wan battle their way to the Chancellor and are challenged by Count Dooku - who is eager for another lightsaber duel with the two Jedi. Dooku defeats Obi-Wan - but is overpowered by Anakin when the chancellor urges young Skywalker to use the power of the dark side.

-- Star Wars Revenge Of The Sith #1 - The 30th Anniversary Collection, 2008

Mace Windu:

Mace Windu is a jedi master known for his wisdom as well as his excellent skill in lightsaber combat.

-- The Clone Wars - The Black Series 3 3/4", 2013

A powerful Jedi warrior - Mace Windu has mastered skills that only the most trained minds could hope to attempt. He is slain in a desperate act of betrayal by Anakin Skywalker after fighting Chancellor Palpatine to a standstill in a battle that costs the lives of three Jedi.

-- Revenge Of The Sith - The 30th Anniversary Collection, 2007

In the days before Palpatine's Empire began its reign of terror - the Galactic Republic governed the affairs of the galaxy from the capital of Couruscant. In addition - the city-planet was also the seat of the legendary 12-member Jedi Council. Wisdom and experience were equally as important as abilities in the Force among the Jedi Council members. For this reason - Mace Windu - a senior member of the Jedi Council - was especially honored and revered throughout the Galactic Republic.

-- E1 Sneak Preview - The Power Of The Force, 1998

Darth Maul:

Darth Maul is a weapon forged by the hateful energies of the dark side to ensure the victory of the Sith over the Jedi order. A creature of pure evil - Maul has no personality beyond his ultimate devotion to his master - Darth Sidious.

-- Theed Hangar Duel - Star Wars SAGA Series, 2003

Darth Sidious:

Finally - the Emperor - who should be fighting to save the Republic - is revealed as the most powerful and menacing Sith of all!

-- The Sith - Revenge Of The Sith Collection, 2005

Here - in a lavish Senatorial office atop one of the tallest buildings on Coruscant - the endgame of the conflict between Sith and Jedi begins. Revealed as a Dark Lord of the Sith - Chancellor Palpatine vaults across his desk with the uncanny speed of a master in the Force - his lightsaber blazing to life. Its blade carries the swift death of no less than three Jedi. Even the great Mace Windu will be fought to a standstill in this - the first battle in a conflict that will end with the extermination of the Jedi.

-- Jedi vs. Darth Sidious 5-Pack - The Saga Collection, 2006

The ultimate one on one battle of good versus evil has spawned a blistering eruption of Force mastery! Palpatine squares off against Jedi Master Yoda in a winner-take-all battle for galactic supremacy - right in the heart of the Galactic Senate!

Evil incarnate - the newly self-appointed Emperor and Sith Lord must destroy any foe that threatens his reign!

-- Skirmish In The Senate 4-Pack - The Saga Collection, 2006

Six years after the destruction of the second Death Star - the galaxy is thrust into turmoil. A reborn evil threatens to enslave the galaxy - and the Republic's closest friend - Luke Skywalker - may become their greatest enemy. With the power to transfer his consciousness to genetic clones - a younger - stronger Emperor Palpatine is perilously close to gaining total control of the galaxy forever.

-- Dark Empire Comic Book - The Power Of The Force, 1998

Dooku:

Count Dooku is a disillusioned former Jedi Knight who lost faith in the Republic and abandoned the Jedi Order. Dooku spent ten years in seclusion honing his Force abilities - and - as a master of the old style of fencing - wields his scimitar-handled lightsaber with consummate grace.

-- Dark Lord - Star Wars SAGA Series, 2002

Fighting with the skill of a consummate warrior and master of the Force - the Dark Lord battles his foes with both hands - wielding his scimitar-handled lightsaber with grace and precision while simultaneously leveling powerful bursts of Force lightning at those who challenge him.

-- Darth Tyranus - Geonosian Escape - Star Wars SAGA Series, 2003

Using the force - Obi-Wan Kenobi flips into battle against the evil Sith Darth Tyranus. The courageous and disciplined Jedi Knight fights for his life as the master swordsman Darth Tyranus prepares to strike the final blow.

-- Obi-Wan Kenobi with Force-Flipping Attack! - Star Wars SAGA Series, 2002

General Grievous:

General Grievous is a brilliant strategist who has honed the droid army into a terrifyingly efficient fighting force. He has carried out the plans of the Separatists on planets and moons throughout the galaxy. Part living matter and part machine - Grievous is as skilled with a lightsaber as any Jedi Knight and relishes any opportunity that allows him to duel - and defeat - a Jedi.

-- Interchangeable Arms! - The Clone Wars Collection, 2008

A cyborg composed of melded metal and flesh - Grievous is one of the most chillingly effective military leaders in the SeparatistGÇÖs army. He is a powerful and frightening presence in battle - exhibiting strategic ingenuity and flawless cunning.

-- Revenge Of The Sith - The Legacy Collection, 2008

Is there something wrong with these quotes?

"Maul has no personality beyond his ultimate devotion to his master - Darth Sidious."

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Thank you for the Grievous quotes Nova.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
"Maul has no personality beyond his ultimate devotion to his master - Darth Sidious."

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was just about to post this, top kek.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Is there something wrong with these quotes?

What? No, I'm just posting them because they're hype for the characters.

And yeah, that Maul quote was a bit funny.

Ant, say goodbye to Revan resisting Malachor V:

In the days of the Old Republic - thousands of years before the rise of Darth Vader - a Jedi named Revan falls to the dark side. While chasing Mandalorian raiders with his Jedi companion Malak - Revan is consumed by destructive Sith energies on the planet Malachor V. He becomes a Sith Lord and lures Malak to the dark side as well - as his Sith apprentice.

-- Knights Of The Old Republic - The 30th Anniversary Collection, 2007

Here's more for Maul:

Qui-Gon Jinn battles Darth Maul in a deadly confrontation on Naboo. The Jedi Master first duels the Sith apprentice on Tatooine - barely escaping the confrontation - then faces him again on Naboo. Qui-Gon is up against a relentless enemy who tests his mastery of the lightsaber. Although he's strong in the Force - Qui-Gon battles for his life against this powerful foe.

-- Light-up Lightsaber Blade! - Movie Heroes Series, 2012

A deadly, agile Sith Lord trained by the evil Darth Sidious, Darth Maul was a formidable warrior and scheming mastermind. He wielded an intimidating double-blaed lightsaber and fought with a menacing ferocity. Though he fell in battle against Obi-Wan Kenobi, the Zabrak from Dathomir would prove to be much harder to destroy than originally believed.

-- Target 8-Pack - The Rogue One Collection, 2016

Ben Kenobi:

Legendary among the heroes of the Rebel Alliance - Ben (Obi-Wan) Kenobi is regarded as one of the greatest Jedi Knights ever to have lived. As a young Jedi who had just completed his own training - Obi-Wan made a solemn pledge to train young Anakin Skywalker in the ways of the Force. Anakin became a Jedi but then turned to the dark side and became Darth Vader. Many years later - destiny would have an older and wiser Obi-Wan guiding Anakin's own son - Luke Skywalker - in the ways of the Force - and ultimately - in turning Vader back to the light side.

-- Star Wars - The Power Of The Force, 1998

Qui-Gon:

A wise and powerful Jedi - Qui-Gon Jinn discovers young Anakin Skywalker - proving to be a pivotal event to the future of the Jedi and to the entire galaxy for generations to come.

-- Jedi Duel - The Episode 1 Collection, 1999

Darth Malgus:

In the time of The Old Republic - this Sith Lord is a powerful warrior in the Sith Empire during the Great Galactic War.

-- Old Republic Video Game - The Black Series 3 3/4", 2014

Shaak Ti:

Shaak Ti is a powerful Jedi Master. Her highly refined Jedi skills are extremely useful in the battle against Count Dooku and the super battle droids.

-- Jedi Master - Star Wars SAGA Series, 2002

Asajj Ventress:

A ruthless and cunning military mastermind of the Confederacy - Asajj Ventress is instrumental in fighting the Jedi during the Clone Wars. Count Dooku discovered the mysterious Asajj Ventress on a war-torn planet shortly after the Battle of Geonosis. Though she had never trained as a Jedi - Ventress demonstrates a corrupt mastery of the Force. Under the tutelage of Count Dooku - she has embraced the dark side - using her twin curved lightsabers to cut down all those who would oppose her. Often accompanied by the bounty hunter Durge - Ventress is more than a match for the Republic's greatest Jedi.

-- Sith Apprentice - Tartakovsky Clone Wars, 2012

Asajj Ventress communicates via a holographic projector to her mentor - Count Dooku - as they twist events against the Jedi. Ventress can wield a lightsaber with devastating skill and precision and is fueled by the power of the dark side and her hatred of the Jedi.

-- Clone Wars - The Clone Wars Collection, 2008

Some really good Ventress hype.

Shaak Ti is a powerful Jedi Master. Her highly refined Jedi skills are extremely useful in the battle against Count Dooku and the super battle droids.

-- Jedi Master - Star Wars SAGA Series, 2002

Well, clearly ti is dooku+ given she can battle dooku+his droids

Though she had never trained as a Jedi.

...So I guess were just ignoring Ky Narec, who took her as his Jedi Padawan and trained her then?

Originally posted by SunRazer
Ant, say goodbye to Revan resisting Malachor V:

I've had the action figure since 2007, lmfao. It's hanged on my wall, actually. That's not a "new" quote.

The historic description presented is in direct contradiction with every existing source available for Revan's fall - especially SWTOR:R.

That's no surprise, since I'm pretty sure a fan wrote the description. Wasn't it like a fan creation contest thing?

@Kbro - That's referring to the war against Dooku. She never fights Tyranus in person.

@Zenwolf - That predates Ky Narec, IIRC.

@DarthAnt66 - What does SWTOR say about it? And this came out three years after Chronicles, so it retcons that — not to mention that Chronicles is hilariously wrong on numerous fronts and inconsistent even with itself.

The Chronicles being wrong on various fronts is irrelevant when Leland Chee has affirmed it's canonical status in not one, but three instances. Also provide me a quote from any canonical policy saying a source coming out after serves as a retcon, since none exists. That's generally *assumed*, but given the caliber of literature is so different (official summary posted on starwars.com and the KotOR II website and affirmed by Chee versus fan-choice action-figure by ToyFare potentially written by fan), I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt. The Chronicles specifically states "Revan feeds on (but is not consumed by) the power of the dark side," which is literally as a direct contest of quotes as it gets. Thus, I'm inclined to refer to the source material on this one (given Chronicles is indeed the original source referring to Revan's actions against Malachor). It's contradicted by SWTOR by stating that Revan is indeed consumed by the dark-side, in which he is not consumed by the dark-side until he confronts Vitiate. He's also not a Sith Lord until he confronts Vitiate. He self-proclaims himself one on Malachor V, but as per Pablo, you have to be officially christened by a Sith Master in order to officially become a Sith Lord (with obvious exceptions, of course). Not to mention the description is blatantly ignorant of the Mandalorian Wars.

For the record, the two other Revan action figures released had descriptions that were direct copy-and-pastes from Wookieepedia, so it's entirely possible this one was as well (just from 2006).

That's beside all the other reasons. 👆

Also, I'm not even sure a claim of retcon can be made, since regardless of when Chronicles was first written, it was still upheld on the official Star Wars website well after the release of the action figure. Chee also confirmed it's canoncity following the release of the figure, I believe. Thus, it effectively never went out of business, even despite numerous rehauls of the Star Wars website, until well after the action figure went away.

Nowhere did I say Chronicles is non-canon, lol. All I was getting at is that it's reliability is just as questionable as the action figure's, but for different reasons. The fact that it's canon and that its canonicity has been affirmed makes it no less susceptible to being retconned, much like any other canon source. The fact that the action figure descriptions can be taken from Wookieepedia means nothing in of itself; it just means that where they do, said Wookieepedia descriptions are canonized by the publishing of those action figures (an official source).

The nature in which Revan became a Sith Lord was in line with how it was portrayed prior to SWTOR coming along and retconning the whole lot. While SWTOR may change the fact that he didn't become a Sith Lord on Malachor V, it doesn't change the notion of him being corrupted there. It claims that Revan's fall to the dark side was completed by his encounter with Vitiate, which he suggests that he was corrupted in part already. We know Revan was succumbing to the lure of the dark side over the course of the Mandalorian Wars anyway; this is just further proof.

Your last post made no sense whatsoever. Regarding retcons, there doesn't need to be an official publication trying to reconcile the two sources; many accepted retcons are simply a new source's depiction of X overriding an older one's. If an official product says one thing, and another official product released later says another in relation to the same topic, then that's a retcon.

Though if you're going to argue that a newer source doesn't outright take precedence over another and try to place emphasis on the "source of origin" over later sources' references to it, then I can settle for Revan not being far more powerful than Nihilus, and Yoda repelling Dooku's Lightning "far from easily", among various other things.

EDIT: Actually, the action figure quote and the Chronicles quote are referring to completely separate events. So no retcon, but Revan was still corrupted, at least in the incident described by the action figure.

It's actually pretty amazing you can type all of that yet somehow dodge every one of my points.

CANONCITY:

- The Chronicles of the Old Republic was featured on both the official Star Wars website and the Knights of the Old Republic II website.

- The article was also confirmed twice over to be a legitimate and good source.

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- Revan action figures have a history of citing Wookieepedia as the back-of-the-box description.

- The action figure is also from a fan-choice award, so it's unknown who the hell wrote it or if anyone ever checked its contents ever.

There's absolutely no statement that newer quotes retcon the old. Chee has said many times it's a "case-by-case basis."

Based on the facts listed above, the Chronicles, in the mind of anyone besides you, would be considered the superior source.

Your "retcon" policy is something you made up. No where has any Star Wars official stated that. So stop the bullshit.

CONTRADICTION:

There is a difference between wielding the dark-side and being consumed by the dark-side. The Chronicles stated the former in regards to Revan, in which no contradiction arose with SWTOR and was, in fact, supportive of later texts. The notion Revan was "consumed" by the dark-side, based on the affects of Malachor V on those that it did canonically "consume," suggests an unavoidable, unbreakable devotion. Thus, a contradiction indeed exists since it was canonically not until Revan confronted Vitiate did such an event happen. Therefore, Revan could not have been consumed by the dark-side on Malachor V. You are trying to argue being corrupted and being consumed is the same thing, which is specifically isn't. Chronicles goes out of it's way to specify the difference.

EDIT: And no, they're both referring to the same event.

Post Chee's quote. The last time we had a quote from him it was referring to the story group's method of deciding retcons, not us.

IRC, the quote from Chronicles is about him drawing on the power of Malachor from space without being corrupted. That was in the middle of the battle, not as they chased the Mandalorian raiders as the action figure quote claims.

And again, the Wookieepedia thing doesn't matter. All it means is that the action figure has canonized that part of Wookieepedia. As for the fan choice crap, assuming you're right, somebody would check it anyway, so yeah. You're grasping at straws.

You realize that C-Canon and all these rules we follow are just how the story group follows it, not LucasFilm's official policy, right?

Nope. It's when Revan arrives at Malachor V. The dark-side tries to corrupt him, but he resists. That's why he maintains his sanity.

It's relevant since it's up for us to decide which of the two quotes are canonical, based on the information provided to us. It's our job to decide similarly to how Chee would decide if the issue was presented to him. And the fact is you know that he would agree Revan resisted Malachor. The alternative has far too many complications and inconsistencies, whereas resisting makes sense and is consistent with the idea he's not consumed until Vitiate. You're the one who is grasping since you so desperately want this passed, but the fact of the matter is it will be only my dead body.

And no, who the **** is checking it? ToyFaire likely provided the description and Hasbro just slapped it on. Do you think Chee is going up and down all the action figures making sure it's canonical? Wtf. We have proof that the Chronicles is confirmed by Chee. We don't have any of that sort of the action figure quote, so it's confirmation of canoncity is certainly up for debate.

Right, but if the story group hasn't made an official ruling, it's up to us, and not being the story group, we aren't necessarily privy to the same criteria. You are aware that one of the criteria was "whatever explanation's cooler", right? 😂

I don't have a copy of Chronicles right now, but when is that? Doesn't sound like it's from him chasing the Mandalorians.

And no, I don't have qualms with that approach, as I said. It certainly means you can give up the MW Revan >>> Nihilus nonsense.

Someone's obviously checking to make sure that he's not writing something utterly retarded on there. Whether or not it's Chee doesn't matter, lol.

Shaak Ti is useful against Dooku. 🙂