And what of Tol Braga and Lord Tagriss?
Force strength (including lightsaber combat augmentation):
1. Valkorion
2. Revan
3. The Hero of Tython (by KotFE, he was the Emperor's most effective adversary; not necessarily the strongest)
4. Vaylin
The Dread Masters
5. Soa
6. Tassar
7. Adelade
8. Sterla
9. Lord Anril
10. Lord Wrad
11. Darth Malgus
12. Arcann
Originally posted by Azronger
Valkorion dominating Outlander happened latest, so no. Valkorion also conceded inferiority to both his children as a spirit, so they're definitely >> Outlander in power.And Vaylin may already have been spent much of her powers. Also, she wasn't directing the attack on Outlander; it was omnidirectional, so the Outlander had to deal with only a small portion of her power.
What? Valkorion dominating Outlander happened in KOTFE Chapter 12, way before any of the Vaylin business. Unless you're talking about KOTET Chapter 9, which would be patently retarded to use as an argument, given how much Valkorion had burrowed into the Outlander by that point. And Valkorion never conceded inferiority to his children.
Outlander tanked it for multiple seconds, Arcann was on his ass unconscious. There's no comparison between Arcann and Outlander, lol.
Originally posted by Geistalt
Tassar
Adelade
Sterla
Lord Anril
Lord Wrad
Everyone here besides Adelade and Tassar had significant assistance when fighting the Outlander and friends, so nah.
Adelade and Tassar are the only ones who have a claim to being a powerhouse, and even then it's unknown how good they performed.
Originally posted by Geistalt
And what of Tol Braga and Lord Tagriss?Force strength (including lightsaber combat augmentation):
1. Valkorion
2. Revan
3. The Hero of Tython (by KotFE, he was the Emperor's most effective adversary; not necessarily the strongest)
4. Vaylin
The Dread Masters
5. Soa
6. Tassar
7. Adelade
8. Sterla
9. Lord Anril
10. Lord Wrad
11. Darth Malgus
12. Arcann
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
What? Valkorion dominating Outlander happened in KOTFE Chapter 12, way before any of the Vaylin business. Unless you're talking about KOTET Chapter 9, which would be patently retarded to use as an argument, given how much Valkorion had burrowed into the Outlander by that point. And Valkorion never conceded inferiority to his children.Outlander tanked it for multiple seconds, Arcann was on his ass unconscious. There's no comparison between Arcann and Outlander, lol.
What are you on about Valkorion "burrowing" into the Outlander? He's been inside his head this whole time and it doesn't excuse his domination of him.
Valkorion conceded inferiority to Arcann in the video I posted, stating that "only together" could he and Outlander defeat him. Valkorion also admitted on another occasion he cannot beat Vaylin and Arcann by himself in spirit form. Note how he can easily disable Vaylin due to her conditioning, so it is likely Arcann could've soloed Valk, per his own admission.
Vaylin caught Arcann off-guard. In the DS version, Lana and Theron are similarly flung back, but suffer no injuries. If the attack was truly capable of tearing through Arcann's barriers, Lana and Theron would've been charred corpses. This is supported by their respective performances against Valkorion.
Arcann > Outlander. 👆
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Uhh, yes it does. The whole point of Valkorion entering the Outlander's mind was to burrow into it and hollow it out so that he could dominate it/him. He was anchored to the Outlander, and gained more control over him/her as time progressed.
Valkorion told Outlander a lot of lies, in case you didn't notice. Given that Valk could have taken over the Smuglander and still murked Arcann, it's pretty clear that it's Valkorion's own power that was capable of defeating Arcann. He needed the Outlanderbdcause he wanted a worthy vessel. He lied to the Outlander. Simple. 👆
More ridiculous logic. Why the **** would Arcann not have his guard up against his psychotic, murderous sister, just after fighting her/her guards? Besides, Vaylin has been stated and implied to be much more powerful than Arcann a million-billion times. Outlander surpassed her. Get over it. 👆
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Uhh, yes it does. The whole point of Valkorion entering the Outlander's mind was to burrow into it and hollow it out so that he could dominate it/him. He was anchored to the Outlander, and gained more control over him/her as time progressed.
I want more evidence backed up by quotes.
Valkorion told Outlander a lot of lies, in case you didn't notice. Given that Valk could have taken over the Smuglander and still murked Arcann, it's pretty clear that it's Valkorion's own power that was capable of defeating Arcann. He needed the Outlanderbdcause he wanted a worthy vessel. He lied to the Outlander. Simple. 👆
Yeah, he's capable of beating Arcann when he has a vessel to channel his power better. That's how every dark side spirit operates, lmao. Doesn't prove that he was lying in the slightest. Keep trying, though 👆
More ridiculous logic. Why the **** would Arcann not have his guard up against his psychotic, murderous sister, just after fighting her/her guards? Besides, Vaylin has been stated and implied to be much more powerful than Arcann a million-billion times. Outlander surpassed her. Get over it. 👆
I don't know, nor do I need to. Now, adress the actual point instead of accusing others of ridiculous logic, which you're employing yourself right now.
Vailyn was chosen by Valkorion to be raised that way because she was the strongest and the one with more potential of the siblings. Senya confirms that as well, when she says "He (Valkorion) never wanted to do anything with them" when reffering to Arcann and Thexan.
Outlander>Vailyn>Arcann is correct.