A shit ton of potentially new quotes

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I never heard of that explosion of Force power within Mace thing before. Explains his insane augmentation to Palpatine level, if we want to apply it to Legends.

Legends has already explained it to us with the RotS novel; he reciprocated Palpatine's Force Speed.

In Canon, has Vaapad even been mentioned yet?

Yeah, in Absolutely Everything You Need To Know.

But not in detail, I believe.

Which never made sense. Mace was just pulling that augmentation out of his ass.

Combining the ROTS novel and this, it actually makes sense and gives Mace enough power for the superconducting loop to be legitimate, IMO.

No, he was able to reciprocate Palpatine's dark side powers (Speed, Lightning). Temp argued that on CV more than a year ago.

Yeah, and where's he getting the energy to do that?

The explosion bubble. 👆

He can't just poof up power to replicate Sidious.

Temp's arguments are now outdated.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t642074.html

We can discuss the Vaapad stuff here.

Let's discuss all the other shit on this thread.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Yeah, and where's he getting the energy to do that?

The explosion bubble. 👆

He can't just poof up power to replicate Sidious.

Temp's arguments are now outdated.

1. Well, seems like it, but that's more of the driving force behind Vaapad altogether. Whereas Vaapad is the source of the reciprocation of Palpatine's powers.

2. Nah. Have a read: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/mace-windu-runs-the-old-republic-gauntlet-1777272/?page=2

Where is it?

Hmm, maybe it was another thread. But he does mention it in this thread as well. He's basically suggesting that Vaapad can reciprocate any powers from a dark sider (Palpatine being the limit), and hence it can also reciprocate stuff like Traya's Drain.

I've seen all of these.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Yeah, just saw that one. The same one claims that Palpatine and Yoda effectively drew.

😄

I'll add it to the list of rare quotes saying that.

Also says he only ran away due to "the risk" of being killed and the Jedi finishing completely.

Originally posted by SunRazer
One claims that Maul beat Grievous easily

😄

That's 2 out of 3. The first one being inconclusive.

You got the quotes for Maul vs Grievous?

Not sure why you're getting worked up over quotes comprising a "majority" on a certain stance. In that case, some of the quotes we've mentioned here make little difference. The vast majority of quotes continue to support the notion that Palpatine won outright and that Yoda was overwhelmed, just as the vast majority of quotes support the notion of Dooku holding his own against Yoda.

So Palpatine nearly overwhelmed Yoda in lightsaber combat. Nice. Supports the notion that he's better on neutral ground 👆

Seems like it's referring to their duel right before they get into the Senate pod.

Originally posted by SunRazer
You got the quotes for Maul vs Grievous?

http://m.imgur.com/hLVyuDJ?r

"while Maul easily drove Grievous away"

Originally posted by SunRazer

The vast majority of quotes continue to support the notion that Palpatine won outright and that Yoda was overwhelmed,

Yoda was overwhelmed because he fell to the bottom of the Senate room. Yoda did lose because he ran away.

But as far as the combat itself went Yoda matched Palpatine's force powers and supposedly best him in Sabers. As confirmed by the script, Junior Novelisation and the movie itself.

Originally posted by SunRazer
One claims that Maul beat Grievous easily

Edit: Oh, you're referring to the Force push. Nvm.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Seems like it's referring to their duel right before they get into the Senate pod.

Which was on neutral ground 👆

Originally posted by Azronger
So Palpatine nearly overwhelmed Yoda in lightsaber combat. Nice. Supports the notion that he's better on neutral ground 👆

If that was true the Palpatine never would have moved onto the Senate Pod.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
If that was true the Palpatine never would have moved onto the Senate Pod.

Well, it could also be that they both simply traded advantages and disadvantages during respective portions of the fight.