Creationist roadshow for kids touring in N Ireland

Started by Ayelewis2 pages

Creationist roadshow for kids touring in N Ireland

http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2017/04/10/news/kids-creationist-dinosaur-roadshow-criticised-for-alternative-facts--991816/

"AN organisation is to tour Ireland with an event teaching children that dinosaurs and humans existed on Earth at the same time.

The ‘Prehistoric Preachers Dinosaur Roadshow’ is hosted by Creation Ministries, which promotes the belief that the world is only around 6,000 years old.

The fundamentalist Christian organisation says the roadshow - to visit four venues across the north during May before moving to five locations in the Republic – will teach the “true history of the world to young and old alike”.

Children are offered the chance to sit on life-size replicas of dinosaurs and take home an “educational free gift”.

However, it has been warned that the message that dinosaurs did not die out 65 million years ago flies in the face of conventional understanding of natural history, with one critic dubbing the claims put forward by organisers as “dangerous alternative facts”.

Creation Ministries previously sparked controversy when an event aimed at encouraging the teaching of creationism in the north’s schools was backed by DUP West Tyrone MLA Thomas Buchanan.

The assembly member praised the event last October for “reaching out to children who have been corrupted by the teaching of evolution”.

On its website, Creation Ministries states that “humans and dinosaurs did coexist” and speakers will explain their beliefs at the roadshow venues at churches in Belfast, Derry and Dungannon.

However, Ulster Museum palaeontologist Dr Michael Simms told The Irish News that it was important to teach children “conventional scientific theories”.

“These are accepted by scholars and scientists to describe life on Earth from the earliest evidence of fossils. This is consistent with approaches taken by museums of renown across the world,” he said.

Mainstream science teaches that the last dinosaurs died out suddenly about 65 million years ago, while the fossils of the earliest human ancestors are only about 6 million years old.

Boyd Sleator of the NI Humanists group criticised the teaching of “myths” to children who may be impressionable due to their age.

“This is simply dangerous alternative facts being presented to children in an ‘entertaining’ fashion,” he said.

“There is no evidence for these creationist beliefs, and we have a duty to protect young people from being told there is any basis for them.”

I agree with both Boyd Sleator and a posting commentator from the topic's original link in regards that lying to children is a form of intellectual abuse.

NB4 New Atheist circle jerk

INB4 pathetic deflection attempt

shit...too late

Funny, because if schools started teaching Norse, Greek or Egyptian mythology as fact, by Thor's hammer you can bet these same people would blow a gasket; when their 6,000 year old Earth, talking snakes and magical gardens have no greater foothold on facts (scientifically speaking) than those other now defunct religions.

edit: Leave the teaching of faith-based beliefs in Churches, Mosques, Temples etc. Is what I'm saying.

But they already teach little kids that their race and gender can be manipulated by the power of ...

Oh and just to point out one of our fave Leftist Soci-Nazis.
This is a ROAD SHOW! Not a Government Education Sanctioned School Curriculum. No one is FORCED to go to a ROADSHOW. No one is BEING FORCED to BELIEVE THIS DOCTRINE AT A ROAD SHOW!

Unlike in Govenrment run Schools where they DO act like they have the power to FORCE YOU TO BELIEVE their Nonsense. Like the Gender Thing.

But other then that....

Originally posted by Ayelewis
http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2017/04/10/news/kids-creationist-dinosaur-roadshow-criticised-for-alternative-facts--991816/

I agree with both Boyd Sleator and a posting commentator from the topic's original link in regards that lying to children is a form of intellectual abuse.

They'll get laughed at pretty much everywhere they go.

Except maybe Cork.

Always has to be Cork. F--king Cork, man.

Originally posted by -Pr-
They'll get laughed at pretty much everywhere they go.

Except maybe Cork.

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Got a news article to prove that or just your own Hate filled Biased Opinion of it?

Well the opinion you share with guys like Robbie.

Hate Filled and Narrow Minded that is.

Originally posted by Robtard
Funny, because if schools started teaching Norse, Greek or Egyptian mythology as fact, by Thor's hammer you can bet these same people would blow a gasket; when their 6,000 year old Earth, talking snakes and magical gardens have no greater foothold on facts (scientifically speaking) than those other now defunct religions.

edit: Leave the teaching of faith-based beliefs in Churches, Mosques, Temples etc. Is what I'm saying.

Funny you say that, because even the Norse practitioners of today (yes, there are still some) don't interpret their own mythology in a literal sense. haermm

We call those people LARPers, not theist 😛

Originally posted by Robtard
We call those people LARPers, not theist 😛

Lol.

But seriously, though...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/02/iceland-temple-norse-gods-1000-years

It's kinda old news at this point, but I still thought it was pretty interesting to find out about.

(KMC topic on the matter: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=608210&highlight=Asatru+forumid%3A80)

"A modern version of Norse paganism has been gaining popularity in recent years as followers see the stories as metaphors for life not worship of the gods" -snip

We see the stories as poetic metaphors and a manifestation of the forces of nature and human psychology-snip

Really have no problem with that and good for them if it makes them be better people in their day-to-day lives. The problem is when one's religion/beliefs is used to bash and oppress others.

Originally posted by Robtard
"A modern version of Norse paganism has been gaining popularity in recent years as followers see the stories as metaphors for life not worship of the gods" -snip

We see the stories as poetic metaphors and a manifestation of the forces of nature and human psychology-snip

Really have no problem with that and good for them if it makes them be better people in their day-to-day lives. The problem is when one's religion/beliefs is used to bash and oppress others.

Kind of like how certain groups have pretty much turned Politics into a Religion and use that to bash and oppress others?

Originally posted by Robtard
"A modern version of Norse paganism has been gaining popularity in recent years as followers see the stories as metaphors for life not worship of the gods" -snip

We see the stories as poetic metaphors and a manifestation of the forces of nature and human psychology-snip

Really have no problem with that and good for them if it makes them be better people in their day-to-day lives.

Truly. The way I see it, that's all a religion should be: a set of moral guidelines and principles by which to live coupled with a good story and some ceremony. No pedantic bickering about whose version of the story is better; no exploitation of purported faith as a platform for pushing secular political agenda; just more of the "live, let live, and do it well" philosophy that I had once better expected of it.

The problem is when one's religion/beliefs is used to bash and oppress others.

Like I basically just said, I feel like the problem lies slightly less with people adopting their ideas from religion (though, I won't deny that to be a legitimate problem, likely stemming from fearful indoctrination) and more to do with people looking to propagate and justify indefensibly unethical beliefs they already hold. In other words, I posit that it's mostly the result and cause of false belief, as I think one who was more true to their faith would make a better point of remembering its core principles and actually living by them.

Anyways, just my two cents, for what it's worth.

Originally posted by Robtard
Always has to be Cork. F--king Cork, man.

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Originally posted by Flyattractor
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[b]Got a news article to prove that or just your own Hate filled Biased Opinion of it?

Well the opinion you share with guys like Robbie.

Hate Filled and Narrow Minded that is. [/B]

Do you think Irish people at large believe dinosaurs and humans existed together at the same time? Really?

Originally posted by -Pr-
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Do you think Irish people at large believe dinosaurs and humans existed together at the same time? Really?

But Humans were there , in what ever evolutionary from they may have had at the time. Unless you believe that Humanity just popped up out of nothing at some point...
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Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]But Humans were there , in what ever evolutionary from they may have had at the time. Unless you believe that Humanity just popped up out of nothing at some point...
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At that point in history the closest thing to humans were small, primitive mammals.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]But Humans were there , in what ever evolutionary from they may have had at the time. Unless you believe that Humanity just popped up out of nothing at some point...
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Basically this:

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
At that point in history the closest thing to humans were small, primitive mammals.

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I checked the list of their shows, and funnily enough, there isn't a Dublin one. That says a lot, imo.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
At that point in history the closest thing to humans were small, primitive mammals.

That is only a guess. Man may have in fact been more evolved at that point in pre history. THINK ON THAT!

Wow, this is the kinda shit DMB stand ms for. 🙁