Hal Jordan Vs Black Bolt & Vulcan

Originally posted by vansonbee
Vulcan tears Hal will power apart and leaves his dried out corpses in the corner.

Vulcan was made to destroy lanterns basically.

Except when Hal went up against a guy who:

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[*]Was a Guardian (so had a programmed safe switch preventing lethal force being used against him AND
[*]Had multiple emotional entities within him, INCLUDING the embodiment of willpower
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He....killed that guy.

On the other hand, when Vulcan went up against BB, a guy who was all about control (what with his voice and all) he....didn't perform nearly as well.

Hal didn't perform well or at all against Orion. This is just Hal wankery week b/c of his recent feat but when he meets the next flying brick, he'll be back on his ass.

Again:

Guardians don't just do well against Lanterns. They are IMPERVIOUS:

Hal not only hurt Krona, but he killed him in a single blast, when Krona had all of the entities:

It's not just that he's the flavour of the week. These scans are from 2010....nearly seven years ago!

I could also post how Vulcan performed against another master controller - BB. Didn't go well for him.

Hal is tailor made to take out Vulcan. He has already faced a guy who SHOULD be completely immune, AND who can control willpower better than Vulcan can ever hope to.

And killed him.

Originally posted by Supermutant
Hal didn't perform well or at all against Orion. This is just Hal wankery week b/c of his recent feat but when he meets the next flying brick, he'll be back on his ass.

http://i61.tinypic.com/35lgq3o.jpg

At this point it's quite indisputable: when Hal starts to truly apply his 'God-will', he is nigh-unbounded. He is a source of willpower superior to that of even the CPB -- and has been likened to the force that originally sparked the big bang itself(and this was a literal comparison, btw, as Volthoom was literally going to use Hal's will to remake the universe from the dawn of time forward)...

Originally posted by Supermutant
Hal didn't perform well or at all against Orion. This is just Hal wankery week b/c of his recent feat but when he meets the next flying brick, he'll be back on his ass.

That was BEFORE Hal was changing into a being of pure will, anyway.

has hal ever been able to keep his ring from being drained by, say, a manhunter? because i think that is much more along the lines that this battle would take. i agree hal could simply overwhelm vulcan in some cases. vulcan wouldn't be able to control a full on blast (like he couldn't manipulate alll of bb's voice energy) but i see no way that he really couldn't just drain him ala a manhunter. /shrug

Plus, its not just flavor of the week. Hal DESTROYED Zero Hour Parallax MONTHS ago. And DESTROYED Sinestro amped off the fear machine WEEKS ago. Hal is constantly above top tier for a long time.

Agreed,,Hal would probably destroy Superman at this point.

Vulcan took a scream from Black Bolt at point blank range and was still able to reform himself. How does that help your position, lol?

Again show me one time Vulcan was not able to manipulate energy. Any type of energy even magical, even living energy, even psychic energy.

All your Krona scans show is that Krona > Orion.

Krona>>vulcan, too.

Originally posted by Galan007
Does Vulcan possess raw strength equal to that of Orion? If the answer is 'no', then I'm unsure why this matters here..?

A good thing for Vulcan then is that he can amps his physicals off of energy like I mentioned in my first post.

lol this is really funny though so now we are going to pretend that Hal is unbeatable, green lanterns rings can't be drained or manipulated, and reforming after taking a Black Bolt scream directly in the face is a low showing.

If you think Vulcan can take current Hal who has routinely tooled universal plus beings, then there is nothing more to say.

Originally posted by Supermutant
lol this is really funny though so now we are going to pretend that Hal is unbeatable, green lanterns rings can't be drained or manipulated

What IS a fact, however, is that Hal can...and has...tapped-into his aforementioned 'God-will' a number of times now, and beaten a number of beings that he honestly had no purpose beating... Do you not understand that his willpower is > a being who controlled the universal embodiment of willpower?

Yeah, Vulcan isn't just draining a ring, but the entirety of Hals own being.

Why exactly are people only arguing regarding Vulcan? He has black bolt backing him up too.

Vulcan could lost a 1v1 fight, but here he just have to mess up Hal force field a bit to BB kill him.

If Hal can survive a blast that not only destroyed Parallax, but also War World AND an amped attack by Mogo, I doubt Black Bolt would have any affect on him.

W/o Hal shield, BB turns him to dust, this time no Kyle to bring him back alive.

Originally posted by vansonbee
W/o Hal shield, BB turns him to dust, this time no Kyle to bring him back alive.

Hal doesn't need shields anymore.

Originally posted by Zack M
If Hal can survive a blast that not only destroyed Parallax, but also War World AND an amped attack by Mogo, I doubt Black Bolt would have any affect on him.

*still apparently can't do anything to Hal*