Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]You know the old saying. It only becomes a viable human once it enters college, joins the SJW Brigage and signs away all voting rights solely to the Democrat Party.Or If it is unplanned pregnancy = Not Human
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Planned pregnancy = Human, but only if it meets the pre stated opinion.
And yet despite everything, what you just said is still not as disturbing as this "I got dibs" mentality. I got dibs on this kill yo, it's okay if I do it cuz I'm the irresponsible one.
This one guy got arrested cuz he got this girl pregnant and then gave her what he said they were vitamins but nope...let us just say if those were Flinstone vitamins she ate BAM BAM if you know what I mean. Cuz that pregnancy ended real quick.
Originally posted by Surtur
My bad in thinking anyone has ever been charged for murder for killing a fetus.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
that concerns the rights of the mother, to carry the fetus to birth unharmed by assault. it does not concern the rights of a cluster of cells, and it's soul which magically comes into existance when sperm meets egg.
Lol bullshit. To murder is to take a life. Something must be considered alive in order to take it's life. The life does not change depending on who the killer is.
If it's murder to kill a fetus it's...murder to kill a fetus. Save for self defense, which in this case is a threat to the mother.
Something is not magically a life if a stranger does it, but it's a clump of cells if momma does it.
Originally posted by Surtur
Lol bullshit. To murder is to take a life. Something must be considered alive in order to take it's life. The life does not change depending on who the killer is.If it's murder to kill a fetus it's...murder to kill a fetus. Save for self defense, which in this case is a threat to the mother.
Something is not magically a life if a stranger does it, but it's a clump of cells if momma does it.
dismissal via avoiding the point and empty posturing.
"bullshit. i'm right and that's that!"
the pretend-winning is strong in this thread.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
dismissal via avoiding the point and empty posturing.
"bullshit. i'm right and that's that!"
the pretend-winning is strong in this thread.
You still haven't explained how it's a life if someone else kills it, but not if momma does. Your "she has the right to a child!" doesn't do that. Explain what does.
Originally posted by Surtur
You still haven't explained how it's a life if someone else kills it, but not if momma does. Your "she has the right to a child!" doesn't do that. Explain what does.
i already explained. the law was enacted for the rights of the mother, not the rights of an embryo over the mother.
Originally posted by Surtur
My bad in thinking anyone has ever been charged for murder for killing a fetus.
I assume you're talking about the Unborn Victim's of Violence Act? That was put forward by a very Conservative republican and signed into law by George Bush. Guess there goes your previous "cos SJW/Liberals!" angle you've used in the past for this.
Personally, it should be amended to not include a fetus that is still within the development phases where abortion is legal. Make those cases me some other crime than murder.
Originally posted by Robtard
I assume you're talking about the Unborn Victim's of Violence Act? That was put forward by a very Conservative republican and signed into law by George Bush. Guess there goes your previous "cos SJW/Liberals!" angle you've used in the past for this.Personally, it should be amended to not include a fetus that is still within the development phases where abortion is legal. Make those cases me some other crime than murder.
I am simply saying that either it's a life or it is not. If it's not, cool. If it is? Cool. They need to treat that consistently. If something isn't alive how can someone go to jail for killing it?
EDIT: But it seems we agree. If it's still in a stage where abortion is legal? Nope, not murder, not anywhere that makes actual sense. It's physical assault on the mother, that is all. The thing that isn't alive doesn't enter into it, on virtue of not being considered alive.