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I don't think Trump will be impeached. I think whatever Russia ties the investigation uncover will be more about people in his campaign rather than him, and he'll be able to claim just enough ignorance to cover himself.
I think he's more likely to die of a heart attack within the next couple of years than be impeached.
Impeachment also requires a super majority to do fully. It's set up in a way that one party can't just impeach the president of the other on a whim. It requires bipartisan support, at least the final senate portion of it. This is what happened to Bill Clinton. He was technically impeached by the house, which requires a simple majority vote, but then once it gets into the senate it requires 2/3rds vote to get the person out of office. So if Trump ever were to be impeached and forced to leave office, a large portion of republicans would need to be on board.
It's not unheard of, and I do think they'd probably do it if Trump was showed to have colluded with Russia and became too much of a liability for their chances of re-election, they probably would have done it with Nixon since he was extremely unpopular by that point as well, but it's not easy.
Originally posted by BackFire
The hysteria that you are talking about is little more than political posturing by House members from very liberal districts who want to score points among their constituents who hate Trump by calling for his impeachment. They know it's not happening.
So in other words they are trying to manipulate people to get votes?
Originally posted by Surtur
So in other words they are trying to manipulate people to get votes?
More telling them what they want to hear. More accurately they are representing the views of their constituents who want him impeached.
The house, in general, is much more extreme than the senate, you have a lot of very far right and very far left people there because they represent a much smaller number of people than those in the senate. So if someone is from a district that wants Trump impeached, it's kind of their job to relay that desire to Washington. They are meant to speak for their districts.
Originally posted by Surtur
IMO telling people what they want to hear as opposed to the truth is manipulation. It's okay man, you can say it: the Democrats are trying to use Trump to manipulate people and get more votes.
But they're doing what they were sent there to do. If they're from districts with a large majority of constituents saying "I want Trump impeached" then it's their job to go to Washington and say "I want Trump impeached". That's their job. If they went to Washington and told those constituents that Trump shouldn't get impeached then they'd just get voted out and replaced by someone who will relay those feelings to Washington.
But yes, there is a level of manipulation in politics no matter who you're talking about. Every single successful politician has to be able to manipulate people to some degree or another.
Originally posted by BackFire
But they're doing what they were sent there to do. If they're from districts with a large majority of constituents saying "I want Trump impeached" then it's their job to go to Washington and say "I want Trump impeached". That's their job. If they went to Washington and told those constituents that Trump shouldn't get impeached then they'd just get voted out and replaced by someone who will relay those feelings to Washington.But yes, there is a level of manipulation in politics no matter who you're talking about. Every single successful politician has to be able to manipulate people to some degree or another.
Funny though, not all Dems felt this way about the electoral college. Then it was "vote with your conscience, not what your constituents wanted".