Things you Like and Dislike about the New Canon.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
So, not wanting to kill your best friend and mentor

People have been claiming for years that Anakin was somehow weakened at Mustafar because of his anger and hate at the "betrayal" he suffered - even though we know those things empower a Dark sider. Well if Anakin was weakened at Mustafar then losing to Obi-Wan, being mutilated beyond all human recognition and killing Padme should compound the problem, no? By that rationale he should be even weaker.

Which he was. We know he was. Yet despite that we're supposed to believe he somehow summons enough power to ragdoll Sidious across the room, yet on Mustafar he couldn't even overpower Obi-Wan's Force push?

Originally posted by Unbowed
Did you just pull that out of your ass? Anakin tried his best to kill Obi-Wan, he just couldn't.

"Don't make me kill you"

I don't remember Maul saying that to Obi-Wan, or Sidious to Yoda or Dooku to Anakin.

Originally posted by Unbowed

People have been claiming for years that Anakin was somehow weakened at Mustafar because of his anger and hate at the "betrayal" he suffered - even though we know those things empower a Dark sider. Well if Anakin was weakened at Mustafar then losing to Obi-Wan, being mutilated beyond all human recognition and killing Padme should compound the problem, no? By that rationale he should be even weaker.

No ones ever claimed his anger made him weaker. It was his internal Conflict.

Originally posted by Unbowed

Which he was. We know he was. Yet despite that we're supposed to believe he somehow summons enough power to ragdoll Sidious across the room, yet on Mustafar he couldn't even overpower Obi-Wan's Force push?

Yes you're supposed to believe he has the power to ragdoll Sidious because it's Canon.

You're also supposed to believe that's not even Anakin's best feat. That would be ragdolling the Son and Daughter.

You're also shown in the same damn film that Anakin was clearly more powerful than Dooku who Obi-Wan clearly was not capable of defeating (at the time).

So yeah put 2 & 2 together and it's pretty clear Anakin wasn't on form on Mustafar. Whereas Canon clearly shows is he was a total powerhouse.

It's pretty obvious that Vader is angry at Sidious because he thinks Sidious lied(which he totally did). Hence him lashing out with the Force and being able to overpower him. It's debateable if you think that's good writing or not. I don't, but it's par the course at this point. Regardless, it does happen, and all new content is always canon. Deal with it.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice

It's pretty obvious that Vader is angry at Sidious because he thinks Sidious lied(which he totally did). Hence him lashing out with the Force and being able to overpower him. It's debateable if you think that's good writing or not. I don't, but it's par the course at this point. Regardless, it does happen, and all new content is always canon. Deal with it.

looks to me that he caught Sidious off guard. nothing more. Sidious even outright threatens him in the last box there... can't wait to read this comic series, whens it coming out?

Uh, no. Already had this discussion, but Sidious being caught off guard makes zero sense. One, Sidious has precog just like every other Jedi or Sith. Two, this is right after Vader gives his trademark No in RotS, so he's already destroyed half the room and lashed out. Three, Sidious is obviously defending himself given the wall behind him shatters but he doesn't die as the metal behind him bends and twists. Four, that's not an outright threat. It's a philosophical question, although Sidious can be threatening him. The point is, this is the same Vader who just got put into the suit and crippled. He shouldn't be overpowering anyone.

And I'm not sure why this is so exciting. You don't even know what it's about.

Holy shit that's actually a really good feat for Vader

Its also possible he let vader do that to physocologically fck with him

As it is, lords of the sith makes very clear sids is more powerful iirc

Sidious is clearly defending himself e.g. Holding out his hands like he's bracing himself or erecting a barrier.

That and its not unusual given Vaders feats in canon are amazing.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Its also possible he let vader do that to physocologically fck with him

As it is, lords of the sith makes very clear sids is more powerful iirc

I'm relooking at the thing, sidious has his arms out *after* he was already in the air, so he could have already had his barrier broken off guard(though that's arguable).

In the third scan we actually see sidious no longer pinned to wall DESPITE vader still having his grip open. This seems to tell me Sidious actually BROKE OUT of vader's grip. This is supported by the wisps of air which to me imply force use.

If anything the scans actually cement sidious's superiority given that he was able to break out of vader's grips. And LOTS just reinforces that.

Literally none of what you just said makes any sense whatsoever.

Not sure what you're not getting. In the third scan, sids no longer has his head on the on the wall despite Vader visibly still trying to keep him in a grip per his clutched hand.

Sidious broke out of Vader' grip reinforcing sids is superior even in spite of Vader being enraged.

And following that sids presumably threatens to kill vader

That has nothing to do with anything established here.

That is not what that means. Regardless, Sidious being more powerful than Vader isn't even what's being talked about here.

No, he doesn't presumably do anything, but even if he did what point are you trying to make? Vader shouldn't even be able to TK Palpatine. That is what everyone else is talking about.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Its also possible he let vader do that to physocologically fck with him

Originally posted by FreshestSlice

It's pretty obvious that Vader is angry at Sidious because he thinks Sidious lied(which he totally did). Hence him lashing out with the Force and being able to overpower him. It's debateable if you think that's good writing or not. I don't, but it's par the course at this point. Regardless, it does happen, and all new content is always canon. Deal with it.

Originally posted by Rebel95
Lol yeah i'm sure that's what it is

Sids mentally raises vader up, and then brings him crashing down all the time

Anyway on Topic
Likes:
1.Vader
2. Anakin and Obi Wan
3. Rebels(kinda)
Dislikes
1. TFA
2. Rogue 1
3. Rebels(kinda)

Originally posted by carthage
Sidious is clearly defending himself e.g. Holding out his hands like he's bracing himself or erecting a barrier.

That and its not unusual given Vaders feats in canon are amazing.

But Vader got beat by a Padawan you troll.

Hence Vader can't take anyone above Padawan level. Carthage logic.

Originally posted by carthage
Holy shit that's actually a really good feat for Vader

Also canon.