Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Am saying, the dialogue jibes.... because it's not presented as fact.From what I can understand of the argument between Galan and you, the two scans contradict each other.
Are you saying my understanding is wrong?
Yes. The two scans don't contradict each other because there is no scan that indicates that Impy contains Big Bang energy IMO. So from my point of view, the only thing that the scientists contradict is his opinion and not what is on paper.
The clarity of what the scientists say is far, far greater than what is shown at the beginning of time. All we know is that Impy is sent back to the beginning of time and hollows the universe just as it is created triggering a second Big Bang simultaneously. We see his energy expanding within the expanding of that triggered Big Bang. No contradiction and no need to erroneously declare serious analysis within the book by the great minds of the universe as "inaccurate".
Originally posted by TheHulkster
SMH. Bios are not canon. The post #19 poster in the below link sums it up thoroughly so I don't have to waste time with you. Point #7 of his post addresses your rather self serving interpretation of what the artwork shows. You would do better sticking to hype labels. "Imperiex is the embodiment of flatulence. He can't be beat" LOL.
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Character is more hype than any character on KMC.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You didn't get my point.I used almost the exact wording as in your scan.....'from my understanding'.
Doesn't mean my understanding was correct.
If you would have left out "from what I understand" it still would have been incorrect.
Also, the difference is that you are real life. In the world of comics, serious analysis by knowledgeable characters is fact until somewhere in the book it is discovered and expressed that it is not fact. The writer has complete control over what is truth and what is false and it is through dialogue that the writer expresses truth.
There is no one writing your life who is in control of the truth and is trying to use your words to relay that truth. Loeb wanted to relay what is inside of Imperiex to us. And he did so.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
If you would have left out "from what I understand" it still would have been incorrect.Also, the difference is that you are real life. In the world of comics, serious analysis by knowledgeable characters is fact until somewhere in the book it is discovered and expressed that it is not fact. The writer has complete control over what is truth and what is false and it is through dialogue that the writer expresses truth.
There is no one writing your life who is in control of the truth and is trying to use your words to relay that truth. Loeb wanted to relay what is inside of Imperiex to us. And he did so.
Or Loeb wanted to convey their indecision and struggle to get a handle on a villain none of them knew what was happening.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
The panel below is very specific with regard to what is inside of Imperiex:
They didn't know anything about Imperiex at that point. Hence why they thought destroying his armor would unleash the power.
It only freed his energy form only.
Can you explain how this jibes with containing Big Bang energy? They are going to channel that energy back to the galaxies they came from. Would not one who reads this scene be fairly well informed?
No, because they were not draining the galaxies. They were collapsing the universe via a black hole.
You're a mindless troll whose only work is to lowball everything in DC.
Try harder next time.
Abhi's scans show repeated reference to him igniting or triggering a Big Bang.
Never mind.
Superman also states that Imperiex will survive the Big Bang. All of such statements imply that the Big Bang is something separate from Imperiex that he triggers and survives. The panels you reference show his energy being dispersed within the Big Bang that he triggers at the beginning of time. THAT jibes with the very specific details shown in the scan above.
"Engine of creation fires twice, two universes born simultaneously, engulfing one another, juxtaposing Infinity atop Infinity until two become one become everything".
It specifically states how two universes are born and engine of creation fires twice.
Even you can't be this dumb.
I have seen several instances where Bios contradict something stated by an editor or writer and when asked about it, the writers and/or editors state that they have nothing to do with nor control over handbook writers. They are fans who have managed to be chosen to write bios and they make mistakes. Bios are not canon.
It's not a bio idiot.
And on panel his explosion created a second universe.
Try harder next time.
Now again, I'm curious as to how your opinion jibes with the dialogue in the scan above.
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or Loeb wanted to convey their indecision and struggle to get a handle on a villain none of them knew what was happening.
He would have had to have actually shown that in order to convey it. "From what we understand" simply doesn't even come remotely close to doing so and is quite a reach. Darkseid seems quite sure of himself as well as Luther. Same for Atom. Heck they all seem practically sure and the only thing preventing success is Braniac.
LOL at Abhi coming in mad with personal insults and irrelevant scans. He cries a lot. 😛
Originally posted by abhilegend
They didn't know anything about Imperiex at that point. Hence why they thought destroying his armor would unleash the power.It only freed his energy form only.
No, because they were not draining the galaxies. They were collapsing the universe via a black hole.
You're a mindless troll whose only work is to lowball everything in DC.
Try harder next time.
He ignited a second big bang in the first big bang from nowhere?
Never mind.
"Engine of creation fires twice, two universes born simultaneously, engulfing one another, juxtaposing Infinity atop Infinity until two become one become everything".
It specifically states how two universes are born and engine of creation fires twice.
Even you can't be this dumb.
It's not a bio idiot.
And on panel his explosion created a second universe.
Try harder next time.
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Originally posted by abhilegendYeah, it doesn't matter how blatantly clear-cut it is... Hulkie-boy simply won't except any facts, unless they align with his laughably contorted version of the truth. He'll just ignore all evidence we provide, and 'counter' it with some sort of random BS that has nothing to do with anything, lol.
"Engine of creation fires twice, two universes born simultaneously, engulfing one another, juxtaposing Infinity atop Infinity until two become one become everything".How can any one think that wasn't a big bang explosion atop another big bang? It's stated as clearly as it can be.
Hulkster is still crying over Imperiex I see.
The poor guy isn't even good at being a troll. 😂
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, it doesn't matter how blatantly clear-cut it is... Hulkie-boy simply won't except any facts, unless they align with his laughably contorted version of the truth. He'll just ignore all evidence we provide, and 'counter' it with some sort of random BS that has nothing to do with anything, lol.The poor guy isn't even good at being a troll. 😂
You really are upset that I ruined your Imperiex dreams. It's all in fun geek. But continue to cry more! 😆
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, it doesn't matter how blatantly clear-cut it is... Hulkie-boy simply won't except any facts, unless they align with his laughably contorted version of the truth. He'll just ignore all evidence we provide, and 'counter' it with some sort of random BS that has nothing to do with anything, lol.The poor guy isn't even good at being a troll. 😂
They never learn.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
OMG, you guys have gone full fanboy. And I was called a "troll". Now you are erroneously claiming that the two page spread of dialogue is "inaccurate". LOL. I'm sure that's what Loeb was going for.You give props to the same Abhi who treats a cryptic speaking Oblivion, who says that something may be an illusion, as speaking undeniable facts, yet a serious analysis by Darkseid, Atom, Luther and other high level scientists is "innacurate".
Then somehow the statement "the engine of creation fires twice... two universes born simultaneously" is a statement referencing the type of energy within Imperiex's armor. The rationalization hamster is spinning right now.
I tried to discuss this with you in a polite way and showed you the wrong of your argument "picking and choosing" character statements over each other and disregarding on panel showings and narration. Now you attack me with the "fanboy" escape? That is disappointing and shows me only that you indeed have a big bias as the base of your opinion and not much else. :/
Edit: And I think I know who you are, judged on your grudge against Galan 😉, Mr.