Ahsoka and Vader vs Revan

Started by Trocity2 pages

Tond with his typical retardation, good attempt from AP at one upping him tho.

Originally posted by slayne
Don't see how it puts them above Revan, given how he was also casually ragdolling some of the most skilled Jedi in the order's history while weakened.

Where did you get the "Most skilled jedi in the order's history" part? Yea they're the most skilled of their eras, but that means little when we're talking about the best in history.
Also, how is Revan ragdolling them remotely relevant to his skill as a duelist?

Originally posted by slayne
She never sent Rebels Maul 'flailing backwards', lmfao. She caught him off guard and, even then, only barely managed to shove him off Kanan.

A. Actually, that's exactly what Ahsoka did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebE-ZMQ9CQ(0:15)
B. I'm not gonna humor your fanon-based excuses.
Rebels Ahsoka was strong enough to send maul flailing backward on an implied nexus, A massively pre-prime ROTS Ahsoka was able to use her strength to hold ROTS Maul in place. Rebels Ahsoka is stronger than maul and hence can replicate any of his showings relating to striking strength which really shouldn't be that surprising given her ability to
-backhand overhead strikes from Vader away:
https://youtu.be/0UVJSJOiLk4?t=4m53s
And disorientate the likes of grievous as a fcking padawan:
https://youtu.be/W6yrZniHDMk?t=2m17s

Originally posted by slayne
None of that even compares to Revan pulled off in his fights with the strike team. Dodging missiles, cannon fire, blaster shots, orbital strikes, lightsaber attacks and more from the galaxy's finest warriors whilst heavily weakened is light-years ahead of what Kenobi pulled off.

Yea no, in terms of speed, dealing with . avoiding attacks from 8 protags doesn' compare to deflecting omnidirectional blasterfire from thousands of droids. Nice try though.
Originally posted by slayne
Revan has easily pulled off better feats on the Star Forge and Korriban while years pre-prime.
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Doubt it but I'm sure you'll try to pass whatever these feats are as more impressive in terms of speed even if they aren't remotely comparable anyway.
Originally posted by slayne
lol

If you disagree, please provide something for revan that comes close to touching putting up a barrier that can withstand superweapon explosions capable of dissolving freighters

Originally posted by slayne
Which doesn't put her above Revan in any way, shape, or form.

Given that Vader has demonstrated vastly better tk than Revan, it does

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Ahsoka solos

People use to argue the likes of malak, oppress and ventress were much more powerful and could take her for a majority. Little soka's come a long way

Regardless, I'm confident you could prolly make a case for rebels maul against revan as well tbh, it would require indirect scaling and logical inference on the force front, but it could be made

Revan solos

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Revan ragdoll's in both

Where did you get the "Most skilled jedi in the order's history" part? Yea they're the most skilled of their eras, but that means little when we're talking about the best in history.
Also, how is Revan ragdolling them remotely relevant to his skill as a duelist?

A. Not sure where you're getting those accolades for Obi, either. Or where you're getting the "most skilled Force users ever" part, as well. And yeah, multiple members of that strike team have accolades which label them as such.

B. Because he was also contending with six of the most powerful Jedi/Sith in the galaxy in an all-out fight, which, at that distance, would ensure a lightsaber duel?

Actually, that's exactly what Ahsoka did

Yeah, she caught a massively post-prime Maul off guard and barely managed to shove him off Kanan with visible strain on her part.
I'm not gonna humor your fanon-based excuses.

It's not fanon, but whatever.
Rebels Ahsoka was strong enough to send maul flailing backward on an implied nexus

When Maul was massively post prime and caught off guard as well. Also, can you provide quotes that, in any way, hint at Canon Malachor being a nexus?
Rebels Ahsoka is stronger than maul and hence can replicate any of his showings relating to striking strength which really shouldn't be that surprising

Rebels Ahsoka is, even if we wanked that feat to the max, only slightly stronger than a massively post-prime Maul. So she definitely isn't pulling off any of his prime strength feats.
-backhand overhead strikes from Vader away:
https://youtu.be/0UVJSJOiLk4?t=4m53s
And disorientate the likes of grievous as a fcking padawan:
https://youtu.be/W6yrZniHDMk?t=2m17s

Not seeing how that puts her above Revan, lol.
Yea no, in terms of speed, dealing with . avoiding attacks from 8 protags doesn' compare to deflecting omnidirectional blasterfire from thousands of droids. Nice try though.

It kinda does, lmao, especially considering that half the strike team were amped Force-sensitives. And the other half were equally amped non-force sensitives, who individually are greater than any battle droid. Revan had to act incomprehensibly fast to avoid their attacks.

The feat is simply better, and no amount of lowballing you do will change that.

Doubt it but I'm sure you'll try to pass whatever these feats are as more impressive in terms of speed even if they aren't remotely comparable anyway.

This is getting painful to read. His strike team feats as well as his KotOR feats far surpass what Vader pulled off.
If you disagree, please provide something for revan that comes close to touching putting up a barrier that can withstand superweapon explosions capable of dissolving freighters

Tanking the full energy of an explosion capable of annihilating anything and everything within a one-kilometer radius? Withstanding and surviving Vitiate's lightning?
Given that Vader has demonstrated vastly better tk than Revan, it does

❌ Ragdolling asteroids, doing the same thing to Jedi who casually tear apart massive Rakatan walls while massively pre-prime, collapsing buildings (while, again, pre-prime), and even more.

Show me a Vader feat that even comes close.

Originally posted by Tondemonai
He ragdolled a team with 2 DE Luke and 2 ESB Vader level people lol

Lolwut? That's absolutely psychotic.

I;m not going to address everythign now but,..
" collapsing buildings (while, again, pre-prime), and even more. "
Are you serious right now> It was stated he MIGHT be able to collapse a building under the RIGHT SITUATION
A builiding we have no concept of the size off. Is there a reason you need to post such misleading crap?

tell 'em rocky.

omg these arguments are so painful

Originally posted by slayne
*snip*

How do you ragdoll an inanimate object? How do you "amp" non Force Sensitives? Who told you Maul was well past his prime in Rebels? What does being amped have to do with anything unless you can establish a baseline for the people being amped? Who told you any of the people who fought Revan were "massively" pre prime? Who told you they could "rip apart Rakatan walls?" Why is losing impressive? And none of the people on that strike team have accolades as being the best in anything, for your information. Whereas the people in PT get that accolade all the time.