Calm down, sally. I initially thought the US could get out of the accord within 12-24 months, but it seems we're in it until at least 2020.
So this could just be a clever election stunt. Where Trump will use "if you vote for *insert name*, we'll be stuck in the Paris accord!" as one of his many tactics to distract the hayseeds away from his other shortcomings.
Originally posted by Robtard
Calm down, sally. I initially thought the US could get out of the accord within 12-24 months, but it seems we're in it until at least 2020.So this could just be a clever election stunt. Where Trump will use "if you vote for *insert name*, we'll be stuck in the Paris accord!" as one of his many tactics to distract the hayseeds away from his other shortcomings.
Hell I didn't even know how much of a raw deal we were signed up for until about an hour ago when I watched a vid that talked about it.
Originally posted by Robtard
Was it that conserve dudebro on youtube?
And I know there's a fair chance that you won't even consider the vid worth watching so don't think I'm trying to sway you to do so. I'm simply posting it as a "just in case".
What is your opinion?
Originally posted by darthgoober
Yup. And I don't doubt that from the other side of the equation there may be a plus side beyond possible future environmental benifits but as a rule of thumb I oppose virtually anything that'll lead to 400,000 Americans being put out of work. But if you're interested in the vid here you go...And I know there's a fair chance that you won't even consider the vid worth watching so don't think I'm trying to sway you to do so. I'm simply posting it as a "just in case".
Lol, that guy. Anyhow, some people love being told they're getting shafted, screwed over, the short end of the stick and that they deserve more. Look at Trump's presidential run, that was a staple of his. 'America doesn't win anymore!', 'We got a raw deal!', 'We lost bigly!', 'We make bad deals!' 'You're being cheated!' etc. ad vomitus. It hooks a certain type of person every time.
edit: Let me give you a local example of this type of tactic working: Take the posters Surtur and HenryPym, any bit of cock-info that tells them there's nothing harder than being a white-hetero-male in America, they swallow it balls and all.
Originally posted by Robtard
Lol, that guy. Anyhow, some people love being told they're getting shafted, screwed over, the short end of the stick and that they deserve more. Look at Trump's presidential run, that was a staple of his. 'America doesn't win anymore!', 'We got a raw deal!', 'We lost bigly!', 'We make bad deals!' 'You're being cheated!' etc. ad vomitus. It hooks a certain type of person every time.edit: Let me give you a local example of this type of tactic working: Take the posters Surtur and HenryPym, any bit of cock-info that tells them there's nothing harder than being a white-hetero-male in America, they swallow it balls and all.
Keep in mind that I'm not arguing that what Chowder is saying is true, I'm just asking if there's opposing evidence from the other side. As I said I knew nothing about any details of this deal before a little while ago so my opinion on it isn't set in stone, I'm just leaning in his direction till I see something that suggests I should do otherwise.
Originally posted by darthgooberI'm going to take the word of coherent and proven businessmen, scientist and politicians over some ranter on youtube. You do as you wish, you're an adult.
Is what Chowder's saying untrue though? Would 400,000 Americans end up losing their jobs? Would we be paying in more money than virtually anyone else? Would people in other countries have some level of control over our economy and industry?Keep in mind that I'm not arguing that what Chowder is saying is true, I'm just asking if there's opposing evidence from the other side. As I said I knew nothing about any details of this deal before a little while ago so my opinion on it isn't set in stone, I'm just leaning in his direction till I see something that suggests I should do otherwise.
Part of me still hopes that this is just another Trump stunt and maybe he has some grand plan where he'll keep the US in the accord, but renegotiate some things to appease his buddies. Granted, I know this isn't true.
Originally posted by Robtard
I'm going to take the word of coherent and proven businessmen, scientist and politicians over some ranter on youtube. You do as you wish, you're an adult.Part of me still hopes that this is just another Trump stunt and maybe he has some grand plan where he'll keep the US in the accord, but renegotiate some things to appease his buddies. Granted, I know this isn't true.
Originally posted by Robtard
I love how you're so sensitive about her stupid unfortunate joke. Trumpers, the biggest snowflakes 👆
I'm sensitive because I said she was giving a press conference? Okay.
Lol, she got all teary eyed and whined and tried to say the Trump's were bullying her. It was truly hilarious.