Flash vs Juggernaut

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Flash vs Juggernaut

Flash has 1 second to ko Classic Juggernaut, can he achieve this? This takes place in a featureless environment.

Yes.

Edit: of course, the caveat being that Flash has access to all of his powers and is able to try anything and everything he wants, up to and including time travel.

If OP or anyone wishes to place stipulations (NO! He can't do X, he can't do Y, he can only do Z), then we know that yes, Flash can indeed KO Classic Juggy in 1 second.

But Der JHUGGANUTS has der Helmutt dat makes him lookl like a big brown dildo!!??

No ko.
Acting upon the assumption that Flash has no prior knowledge of how Juggernaut's powers work, Juggernaut's force field should be able to negate or, at least, seriously compromise anything the Flash does, utilizing "speed" as an attack.

But, after that 1 second, things would get interesting.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Thats a long time -relatively speaking- to realize he cant KO Juggernaut.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes.

Edit: of course, the caveat being that Flash has access to all of his powers and is able to try anything and everything he wants, up to and including time travel.

If OP or anyone wishes to place stipulations (NO! He can't do X, he can't do Y, he can only do Z), then we know that yes, Flash can indeed KO Classic Juggy in 1 second.

holy crap!!
I have been reading comics for decades, with Flash being among my favorites. And, only right now, after reading your post, did something occur to me...

It would be HORRIBLE to be the Flash! Holy God!! What a frickin nightmare. He would have immediately gone insane.

As a matter of fact, looking at the image in yer post, u can kind of see it. Yeah. In his eyes. He's f'ing nuts!

Originally posted by Horrificus
holy crap!!
I have been reading comics for decades, with Flash being among my favorites. And, only right now, after reading your post, did something occur to me...

It would be HORRIBLE to be the Flash! Holy God!! What a frickin nightmare. He would have immediately gone insane.

As a matter of fact, looking at the image in yer post, u can kind of see it. Yeah. In his eyes. He's f'ing nuts!

👆 that's how strong his will is 😛

Actually, he can control how he perceives things, iirc.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Actually, he can control how he perceives things, iirc.
yeah, i know. But, to just instantly KNOW EVERYTHING, first of all, would be bananas.
Then, whenever he is in a non-speed mode, would b like walking around with everything and everybody always being frozen.
Yeesh. I'll pass.
Bring on the next super power please. Pref something much less "thinky" and much more "breaky". Or even "blasty".

This is the Anti-Monitor, after an explosion that could destroy a galaxy:

http://i.imgur.com/ajH6ix4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vDRQi9e.jpg

Tanking all of the Corps, combined (granted, he's a BL, but if anything, that makes him less durable:
http://i.imgur.com/7IQQ1m3.jpg

Takes blows from nearly all of Pre Crisis DC:
http://i.imgur.com/D3XXoSm.jpg

Multiple Guardians of Oa:
http://imgur.com/a/HUl2S

And Flash?

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114806/3707117-2657489924-33142.jpg

Then there are always internal attacks, which would phuck him up from the inside. Which bypasses the FF, btw.

Internal attacks, for the KO:

Wally could speed all of Juggy's cells up and make them burn:
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/kinivac.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/inol.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tEWvbXo.jpg

Wait, he wouldn't do that to a sentient being?
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/molestea.jpg

But would it work past Juggy's FF?

Yes. As shown with Cyclops' various plans to deal with Kuurth - which he planned would work on Juggernaut, but hadn't dealt with the Serpent's additional enchantments. Internal attacks work (after all, that's why they need to get rid of that helmet in the first place). Matter manip works on his internals.

Don't be ridiculous. It wouldn't work on Juggernaut.

Some of Cyke's plans were desperate af, simple as that.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Don't be ridiculous. It wouldn't work on Juggernaut.

Some of Cyke's plans were desperate af, simple as that.

No my point was, it DID work on Kuurth.

It just didn't KO him.

But it would KO Juggy, just like psychic attacks work on Juggy but not Kuurth.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But it would KO Juggy

No, it really wouldn't. Are you high?

Reducing him to a skeleton didn't KO him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No my point was, it DID work on Kuurth.

It just didn't KO him.

But it would KO Juggy, just like psychic attacks work on Juggy but not Kuurth.


Thats a stretch.

Nothing's been shown here that's in even forum terms 'definitive'. Just a lot of opining in the guise of facts.
Cant see backing Flash on this one. ❌

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Internal attacks, for the KO:

Wally could speed all of Juggy's cells up and make them burn:
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/kinivac.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/inol.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tEWvbXo.jpg

Wait, he wouldn't do that to a sentient being?
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/molestea.jpg

But would it work past Juggy's FF?

Yes. As shown with Cyclops' various plans to deal with Kuurth - which he planned would work on Juggernaut, but hadn't dealt with the Serpent's additional enchantments. Internal attacks work (after all, that's why they need to get rid of that helmet in the first place). Matter manip works on his internals.


U would hace a lot more proving to do, to make that stick.
This is Classic Juggs. His piwers were just as vague and limitless as Flash's powers.
Y would Flash b able to bypass Juggernauts ff? How? When all sorts of top tiers at the time were shooting blanks against him.
Y is Flash able to overcome Cyttorak's power?
There r a lot if arguments that can b thrown up to counter Flash in this scenario.

Lots of variables.

Then, of course, there is the problem with this on-panel stuff below.
Even in this state, Juggernaut does not seem to b ko'd.

In fact, he seems to b quite randy!

Also, we all know Flash has heavy feats, but lets not forget some of the math that has earned Juggernaut his respect, even indirectly.

For example, we know Thor has some off-the-chart striking feats, such as cracking the armor of a Celestial. Yet he was unable to do the same to Juggernaut.

👆

You guys have all convinced me.

It only took....a couple of hours?

http://i.imgur.com/ZkD5qzx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6IPp0HO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OD1gjFs.jpg

A couple hours, or 6.12E+42 attoseconds. 👆

Originally posted by Horrificus
holy crap!!
I have been reading comics for decades, with Flash being among my favorites. And, only right now, after reading your post, did something occur to me...

It would be HORRIBLE to be the Flash! Holy God!! What a frickin nightmare. He would have immediately gone insane.

As a matter of fact, looking at the image in yer post, u can kind of see it. Yeah. In his eyes. He's f'ing nuts!

You should search up "The Ballad of Barry Allen" on YouTube.