hulk vs ultimate heroes

Started by cdtm4 pages
Originally posted by leonidas
lol i was hoping for some ACTUAL support and argument for hulk, but seems like we're not going to get any.... 🙁

Tell me I was trolling when I made my second to last comment.

Because I'd feel better then believing it's true. 🙁

I'll support him a little.

No one on the team wants to get hit by the Hulk, including the destroyer armor. His impact against Betty can kill class 100 characters, it's a strength that isn't easily matched when you can body slam your friend and it kills the planet, but you're doing just fine.

Originally posted by leonidas

immortale herc--has sword of peleus, (cuts anything), helmet of hades (invisibility), his adamantine mace and the aegis shield for protection (turns kinetic energy of attacks back on attacker)

thor--has placed his soul in the destroyer armor--has his hammer and axe with him

superman--as in jla/avengers has cap's shield and is given stormbreaker by bill

wonder woman--lasso and gauntlets of atlas and has been given the ebony blade by the black knight for the battle

Hercules and wonderwoman are in genuine danger from a thunderclap. Someone should freshen me up on what the gauntlets of Atlas do, but given the insane nature of Hulk's strength at this level those two don't strike me as capable of withstanding the Hulk's damage output for long.

That would leave Thor and Superman, and it really comes down to how they fight. Superman going all DoS on Hulk wouldn't get him very far, although his weapons do give him considerable defense and offense stacked onto his own.

I have a hard time seeing the team win a physical confrontation given Hulk's energy output, but that said...this is Thor and Superman. Aside from the physical confrontation which even then isn't necessarily guaranteed, they just have too much in their toolkit if they're not fighting down to Hulk's level to lose majorities.

Diana is next. 1 on 1 he exceeds her physically even with the gauntlets. The ebony blade is a nice touch but i cant think of anyone who has weilded it successfully save Dane. And although its hax its better against mystical/energy type beings than bricks. Her h2h skill surpass his and her speed but his damage soak/hf will compensate and then some. She can try decapitation but like someone pointed out hes regrown his head. Her lasso is the only hope to subdue him but at his wbh levels and given his history of odd strength feats its plausible he could break it..iirc he was also radiating gamma energy too during hotm so shed have no answer for that. If she doesnt go for the quick lasso/decap combo and decides to go mano a woma then she gets stomped. Id wager shed try h2h first and get quickly overwhelmed or even flash koed

Originally posted by carver9
His skin is as hard as adamantium. He's stronger than an Abstract and he moves so fast that he can move through time. Punch so hard that he can reverse time. Everyone dies.

You hit yourself in the head, then got drunk and high...

Originally posted by Damborgson

I have a hard time seeing the team win a physical confrontation given Hulk's energy output, but that said...this is Thor and Superman. Aside from the physical confrontation which even then isn't necessarily guaranteed, they just have too much in their toolkit if they're not fighting down to Hulk's level to lose majorities.

I disagree. Hes exrremely resistant to energy blasts and i cant see lightining blasts/hv/cold breath/hurricane winds doing much. Destroyer blasts may be a big hindrance though

Sin, you are.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Sin, you are.

I am Sin, yes?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

You hit yourself in the head, then got drunk and high...

Hey, I'm not the one that said all the fts are available here.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I disagree. Hes exrremely resistant to energy blasts and i cant see lightining blasts/hv/cold breath/hurricane winds doing much. Destroyer blasts may be a big hindrance though

The destroyer would still likely tear holes in him, but they could also kick him off the planet, both Thor and Superman would be comfortable in space but Hulk would now be at a sever disadvantage.

Then his glowing green energy can be absorbed, he's now getting Cap's shield thrown at him by Superman, Thor would literally peel the skin off of him with the destroyer, he can be thrown into stars, etc.

Originally posted by carver9
Hey, I'm not the one that said all the fts are available here.

Carververse feats don't count.

Originally posted by Damborgson
The destroyer would still likely tear holes in him, but they could also kick him off the planet, both Thor and Superman would be comfortable in space but Hulk would now be at a sever disadvantage.

Then his glowing green energy can be absorbed, he's now getting Cap's shield thrown at him by Superman, Thor would literally peel the skin off of him with the destroyer, he can be thrown into stars, etc.

Im assuming this battle is contained. No space shensnigans..more i think about the more i consider non (herc) to minimal (diana) threats. Thor/Clark will slug it out and lose or stalemate imo

aegis:

https://imgur.com/a/LfP89

https://imgur.com/a/RLFJH

https://imgur.com/a/C7wDf

https://imgur.com/a/WRIQ2

the aegis was able to effortlessly repel and return zeus' lightning. enough to kill hera. he then went on to kill zeus.

and its not effective against just energy:

https://imgur.com/a/4tcZN

https://imgur.com/a/iKMfh

typhon was one of herc's greatest battles, and maybe his best single win. dude was a ****ing monster....

and with the sword and helmet? he's def not no one in this fight.... just saying.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Carververse feats don't count.

😠

The fts I named are legit.

Originally posted by leonidas
aegis:

https://imgur.com/a/LfP89

https://imgur.com/a/RLFJH

https://imgur.com/a/C7wDf

https://imgur.com/a/WRIQ2

the aegis was able to effortlessly repel and return zeus' lightning. enough to kill hera. he then went on to kill zeus.

and its not effective against just energy:

https://imgur.com/a/4tcZN

https://imgur.com/a/iKMfh

typhon was one of herc's greatest battles, and maybe his best single win. dude was a ****ing monster....

and with the sword and helmet? he's def not no one in this fight.... just saying.

Hulk at base WWH levels tanked an attack from a being that was 17 times more powerful than Hercules. No one here is generating that kind of force.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Im assuming this battle is contained. No space shensnigans..more i think about the more i consider non (herc) to minimal (diana) threats. Thor/Clark will slug it out and lose or stalemate imo

cap's shield was destroyed by a sky father attack, while the aegis took it and returned it to kill the skyfather.... superman may be the one in trouble here. his speed will be an issue for sure though. diana's speed will also help, and given how she has subdued even people as fast as supergirl before she noticed what was happening? i doubt hulk would break the lasso, but regardless it WOULD hold for a while. in that time some disintegration beams, a superspeed shield throw and getting hacked on by 2 swords that cut anything all WHILE being drained of his gamma power by 2 hammers....?

hrm. gonna take a LOT more convincing before i think hulk has a chance in this thing... and if we're using all hulk's feats, feats from all the others are also available.

of course to some that will mean superman solos. 👆

Originally posted by leonidas
aegis:

https://imgur.com/a/LfP89

https://imgur.com/a/RLFJH

https://imgur.com/a/C7wDf

https://imgur.com/a/WRIQ2

the aegis was able to effortlessly repel and return zeus' lightning. enough to kill hera. he then went on to kill zeus.

and its not effective against just energy:

https://imgur.com/a/4tcZN

https://imgur.com/a/iKMfh

typhon was one of herc's greatest battles, and maybe his best single win. dude was a ****ing monster....

and with the sword and helmet? he's def not no one in this fight.... just saying.

👆

Carver read the scans please.

They have only a few words, is not that hard. If you don't understand a word or a concept use a dictionary or google it or ask us, We will gladly help you out.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
In the minds of Carver, PG and Stoic this is also not a battle.

Hulk thunderclaps and vaporizes the team, according to them.

Just saying, they have a different point of view on this hulk.

Are you baiting me?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
👆

Carver read the scans please.

They have only a few words, is not that hard. If you don't understand a word or a concept use a dictionary or google it or ask us, We will gladly help you out.

You're a pretty condescending person I see, not to mention having the balls to be pedantic which is weird coming from someone that makes so many grammatical errors.

Originally posted by Stoic
Are you baiting me?

No, he's dissing you. 😉

Originally posted by Stoic
Are you baiting me?

Not really. Just stating the obvious I even say you 3 have a different point of view on this hulk which is true.