Originally posted by leonidas
it's always been good, but his tp isn't exactly a go to for him, nor would i consider him a real threat in terms of tp. unless he's done something much more recent that i've not seen. /shrug
I've never heard of WW being TP resistant, so i figured this would make up for her likely superior physical stats.
^^^didnt know.
Here's a few scans re: Ikaris' TP.
I personally am not picking a winner, just putting stuff out there that was imortant in another thread, so shouldnt be ignored.
Feats have a hanit of enbing and flowing for some lesser used characters from thread to thread.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
He has shown that he is capable of feats beyond that description, however, one which is explicitly mind control.http://imgur.com/WtKYuMF
http://imgur.com/YQMqxmGHe's erased someone's memory as well.
Now, I have no idea what Cap's feats of TP resistance are, so I'm simply wondering if he has any to suggest he could resist either of those.
Originally posted by riv6672
^^^didnt know.
Well, you do know.
And since you're in the mood for scans, here they are:
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
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Mind Controlled Prime Eternal Ikaris vs Namor, Captain America and Jimmy HammondThis for me is one of those fights of Ikaris's where I am on edge constantly. Ikaris here is probably regarded the most
highly as he has been in a while. On this occasion Ikaris was placed under mind control by the Kree and was sent to kill
the All-New Invaders. Another thing we know from this fight is that for most of it Ikaris trying his best not to kill
them despite being under mind control. We also learn that Captain America had stitched a plan. To hold Ikaris in place
until Bucky and the others arrived. He never informed Namor of this though as to make sure he was at full fighting force.
And we learn from Cap himself, that Ikaris is too powerful for anyone in the group.
http://i.imgur.com/XeuYfHi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bZjyIII.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wz0ipAa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pz9SB6K.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pio1uHQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UKm95fC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mSJPwra.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RQDIMZy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CTQ2qLY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0PE1d19.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/igu7OGs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UJihycv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/12YE3yf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vP8PpD4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KYkqwmf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wniMNtu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CZQZgvX.jpgThe battle only ends after control of Ikaris is severed tahnks to Captain America. Who is to say what could have happened
had that not happened? Ikaris most certainly was beginning to unleash his full power. And who knows where that would have
went.
[B]From The All-New Invaders #3 and The All-New Invaders #5
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Originally posted by zopzop
Also keep in mind that the HT he was fighting wasn't Johnny Storm it was Jim Hammond. Jim Hammond is a ridiculously powerful fire user, puts Johnny Storm to shame and Ikaris was just laughing off his attacks.Ikaris wins after a good fight.
When did that happen? All comparisons I remember have had Johnny as the superior in raw power.
Originally posted by zopzop
Also keep in mind that the HT he was fighting wasn't Johnny Storm it was Jim Hammond. Jim Hammond is a ridiculously powerful fire user, puts Johnny Storm to shame and Ikaris was just laughing off his attacks.Ikaris wins after a good fight.
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Especially considering his recent showing with Thanos. Beating Sentry, etc, etc...
Originally posted by Delta1938
When did that happen? All comparisons I remember have had Johnny as the superior in raw power.
ww is FAR beyond namor level in every way. i'm not sure how many tp resist feats she has gathered since the reboot though. pre52 she has some really good resistance feats, though at times her resistance was slightly inconsistent. generally anyone that affected her was pretty uber tp-wise so i still don't see tp doing anything here. certainly not turning the tide. i'd need to see him controlling someone in diana's class before that would ever fly.
physically she is stronger and faster and her weapons and bracers are pretty well made to take him out and defend her. ik has had some....less than great showings in the past as well. who is the biggest name he's ever dropped?
one battle against namor and torch isn't close to enough to suggest he beats ww, whose feats are among the best in comics for heralds. /shrug