Originally posted by riv6672
And there's the baiting i mentioned.I know comics well enough to agree with you 99.100% of the time. 😛
I know what hyperbole is too.
I'm well aware he didnt kill a Watcher.
This is still past DD IMO.
Hyperbole, a kind term for lying, or exaggeration.
Which is what the Rulk side has as part of their arguments.
Why do you think punching a Watcher is beyond what DD could do (or could survive from)?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ok feats for DD:Took and has adapted past the Omega Beams. That has clear feats, and are clearly the actual Omega Beams, as opposed to some random beams from Galactus'.
Shredded through countless Imperiex Probes. Are they all equal? Are all Watchers equal? At least the Probes are known for their offensive and defensive capabilities. So in that regard, DD trumps Rulk.
Evolved past MM's phasing. Energy attacks from the Radiant, a being of pure energy. Energy attacks from the League. Oan energy. Why is this important? One of Rulk's attacks involves outputting incredible amounts of energy. DD is past all that.
He beat an amped Superman, on Kryptonite X AND a Motherbox, which healed all of his injuries and ensured he was in tip top condition. DD still toyed with him.
Rulk's showing against Thor is good....until the very next issue where Thor humiliated him. So hardly a great feat.
Loeb Rulk has good feats. But when up against the true top tiers (Thor and Hulk), he was ultimately found wanting. Doing well against Sentry doesn't mean much, when Sentry's mind is all over the place. Herc did well against Sentry too. A random villain with Iron Man's power dampener depowered Sentry. Let's not pretend Reynolds was at his best in every fight.
DD also has good feats. And killed his top tiers (and nearly killed DS). Was DS a mere avatar of the true DS? Debatable.
He didn't kill The Watcher, but he crushed him with elbow and killed a Grandmaster. In a rematch with Thor, Rulk wasn't himself. Anyway, it was after a rematch with Thor that Rulk achieved his peak.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hyperbole, a kind term for lying, or exaggeration.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why do you think punching a Watcher is beyond what DD could do (or could survive from)?
...along with the other feats that are being lowballed.
Anyhow, done here.
As i've said before, when disagreeing with you, i find nothing is gained from pushing you into a catty attitude.
Ah, fair enough.
As for the baiting of Carver (who I assume is who you're referring to), the reason for that is for the lying he has made, even in the face of being presented with proof.
We're it just limited to comics, that would be fine. But he tried to lie when in a BZ with me, and tried making me out to be the liar (and not with comic related issues).
His persona is a front to cover up his attempts at saving face when he is found out. And debating, actually debating against him is useless, as he will change his stance according to his personal tastes, twisting scans and logic to do so. At least abhi is consistent in his logic and arguments.
Hell, search back and you will find I was once like you. Insane Titan used to abuse him, and I'd fight for Carver's corner. Even (non ironically) nominated him several times for poster of the year.
Originally posted by Damborgson
I wouldn't try to feat fight Dommsday with Rulk there bro.Especially since he displayed clear limits when he lost to Thor next fight and got dominated by Green Scar.
Thor dive bombed him from the moon while he was fighting Hulk and just started pounding on him. He was over heating before facing Thor the second time.
Originally posted by carver9
Thor dive bombed him from the moon while he was fighting Hulk and just started pounding on him. He was over heating before facing Thor the second time.
Exactly... he wasn't himself. And his peak was after a rematch with Thor. Rulk was a powerhouse and we all know it. Now he really is extreme shadow of his peak self.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ah, fair enough.As for the baiting of Carver (who I assume is who you're referring to), the reason for that is for the lying he has made, even in the face of being presented with proof.
We're it just limited to comics, that would be fine. But he tried to lie when in a BZ with me, and tried making me out to be the liar (and not with comic related issues).
His persona is a front to cover up his attempts at saving face when he is found out. And debating, actually debating against him is useless, as he will change his stance according to his personal tastes, twisting scans and logic to do so. At least abhi is consistent in his logic and arguments.
Hell, search back and you will find I was once like you. Insane Titan used to abuse him, and I'd fight for Carver's corner. Even (non ironically) nominated him several times for poster of the year.
To add to this, he's always playing the victim. Like how he put multiple people on Ignore at once for calling him out for being a lying hypocrite, and acted like he was innocent.
But yeah, it's not just debates where he's proven to be a liar or a hypocrite.
Originally posted by Delta1938
To add to this, he's always playing the victim. Like how he put multiple people on Ignore at once for calling him out for being a lying hypocrite, and acted like he was innocent.But yeah, it's not just debates where he's proven to be a liar or a hypocrite.
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Your feelings are hurt because Carver won't pay you enough attention, huh?
It's alright, you don't have to justify anymore.
We understand now.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
😬Your feelings are hurt because Carver won't pay you enough attention, huh?
It's alright, you don't have to justify anymore.
We understand now.
Basically. Delta is a good guy though. I don't have as harsh feelings about him as he pretends to have for me. He's literally the only guy on KMC I have communicated with outside of this website.
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Originally posted by carver9
Basically. Delta is a good guy though. I don't have as harsh feelings about him as he pretends to have for me. He's literally the only guy on KMC I have communicated with outside of this website.🙁
Don't forget the time you emailed me the Goku image for a sig.
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On the thread topic dare I say who wins, a quagmire of the biggest proportions. But I feel happy saying Doomsday beats him.
quasar has beat on a watcher too, so not sure why that feat is being touted so highly. i seem to recall a different hulk thread where people not on the hulk side were being roundly criticized for sticking only to a particular ARC. here any feat that shows rulk's limits (getting pulped by thor and hulk for instance) are being discarded by rulk's side because....he wasn't at his best?
well, at least there is no attempt at hiding the double standards. 👆
and lol at rulk surviving an attempt by g to 'kill' him. he simply teleported him back to earth ffs.
anyway, for the reasons mentioned dd wins.
Originally posted by riv6672
Happens here all the time, often much more maliciously.
Malicious, like continuously baiting a fairly nice guy for the perceived crime of not sharing your viewpoint, then baiting him even more when he reacts to it, and using that as an excuse to bait him even more.I dont.
I know beating the Watcher like ginger stepchild does that......along with the other feats that are being lowballed.
Anyhow, done here.
As i've said before, when disagreeing with you, i find nothing is gained from pushing you into a catty attitude.
I'm haven't forgotten that.
I just think beating Darksied near to death in a few hits and ripping him open is even more impressive. (It's not like Rulk beat on Galactus. We saw what happened when he tried..)
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Don't forget the time you emailed me the Goku image for a sig.---
On the thread topic dare I say who wins, a quagmire of the biggest proportions. But I feel happy saying Doomsday beats him.
True. You are the best guy here, on KMC. I will reach out to you more because I want to stay posted on what's going on with you, the good and hopefully nothing bad. I can't communicate with you on KMC because I don't get the notifications when I receive messages. Do you still have my email address?
Originally posted by Inedianshe absorbed a noob Surfers powers. All he did was fly through Dormammu using Surfers board, that's not happing against DD. A amped Superman fly half war round the planet to get enough power behind him to smash into DD.
He had other feats. Already absorbing Silver Surfer power on top of his own it says how much power he could handle. He even dismised Dormammu.