Darth Vader vs Novel Vitiate

Started by slayne3 pages

Darth Vader vs Novel Vitiate

Post-suit Vader. Vitiate, unamped, as he appears in Revan.

Starting distance is 20 feet; who wins and why?

Vader stomps yea, valk has a better shot

Vit, obviously.

Vitiate stomps.

Vader pretty easily

Vitiate destroys Vader.

Vitiate was going to lose to a shit team of Meetra/Scourge

Vader TKED Palpatine, forced him to defend hmself, and withstood his lightning

Vitiate gets blitzed

Legends or Canon?

Anyway, Vitiate beats Legends Vader in a decent fight, but it's not a stomp.

Vader wins, and it's not that close.

Originally posted by carthage
Vitiate gets blitzed

canon vader would destroy vitiate.

You already voiced your opinion in the second post of the thread. I don't think anyone asked for a clarification.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
canon vader would destroy vitiate.

*shrugs*

@Rocky: Please don't quote this sentence by sentence as a response. I'm not debating. This isn't aimed particularly at you - just my overall thoughts to everyone, really.

Should be noted that, if we are doing Canon vs Legends, characters in Canon are generally far less powerful than their Legends counterparts. The only two exceptions would be Yoda and Darth Vader, but that's simply because they are portrayed in a comic medium, if you ask me. I wonder if their feats would transfer fluidity into a TV or film setting, or if they are exaggerated like the microseries was in the eyes of Canon creators like Dave Filoni. I'm inclined to believe the latter, since we know from the TV series that a character of Dooku's power would be unable to shield himself or telekinetically dominate thirty pirates trying to attack him without a lightsaber.

In regards to Canon Darth Vader, he's blatantly not as powerful as his The Force Unleashed incarnation, but he is better than all his other ones. His confrontations with the cyborgs in the first season of his comics was not impressive, however. His telekinetic feats were great, but I also wonder if telekinesis is being used as a great indicator of Force power like it was in Legends. For example, Darth Vader's telekinesis might be the greatest of the Canon Sith Lords, but Darth Sidious would still be more powerful than him with the Force, which would then be explicitly demonstrated with his Force lightning that is capable of matching Yoda. It seems that the Sith Lords are a lot more specialized than generalized, if you get what I mean. Anyway, I repeat that Darth Vader surviving Malachor is not a feat because we do not know the circumstances behind it. Attributing it as a feat is ridiculous, since you could easily write that feat off as better than probably anyone has ever did ever. The reality is we don't know what happened, but Filoni has commented that a lot went down. It's just as possible Ahsoka Tano helped shield Vader as a final sacrificial act.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Anyway, I repeat that Darth Vader surviving Malachor is not a feat because we do not know the circumstances behind it. Attributing it as a feat is ridiculous, since you could easily write that feat off as better than probably anyone has ever did ever. The reality is we don't know what happened, but Filoni has commented that a lot went down. It's just as possible Ahsoka Tano helped shield Vader as a final sacrificial act.

That is why we go with Occam's Razor. The temple blew up with Vader right in the middle of the blast. Later on Vader is seen walking out of the ruins, injured but very much alive. The conclusion to draw from that is painfully obvious; anything else is baseless speculation.

Legends Vader has arguably better feats anyway.

There's no painfully obvious answer when we see what appears to be Ahsoka also descending down into the temple that was supposed to just have been destroyed by the giant explosion.

Surprised and saddened to see you're still on KMC, though.

Ant still struggling to come to terms with the facts, sad.

even if it was ahsoka+vader, the feat would still be vastly beyond vitiate's paygrade.

Originally posted by Azronger
is painfully obvious; anything else is baseless speculation.

Legends Vader has arguably better feats anyway.


Such as?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I wonder if their feats would transfer fluidity into a TV or film setting, or if they are exaggerated like the microseries was in the eyes of Canon creators like Dave Filoni. I'm inclined to believe the latter, since we know from the TV series that a character of Dooku's power would be unable to shield himself or telekinetically dominate thirty pirates trying to attack him without a lightsaber.

Probably considering Dark Jedi Lycan killed a casino full of about 30+ beings without even making a gesture and there's instances of guys taking on near or greater than 30 people in Legends.

Ya know the thing that gets me the most is....of all things, why pirates?.

I'm more confused than mad about it, though it still bothers me.

They could have done that a little better, mercenaries would have made a little more sense and would been better.