Sue Storm vs. Rachel Grey

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Sue Storm vs. Rachel Grey

Morals off for both

Who wins

riv6672 Senior Member

Not into the whole morals off thing, just curious as to:
Is Rachel the one going by Prestige in X Men Gold right now?

StyleTime Senior Member

Yes, Rachel is Prestige.

Ironically, she thinks the X-Jet needs a name change...

https://postimg.org/image/m8db3ukgd/

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IMHO, if Rachel is playing to win, she takes this.

Jean Grey sans PF AND TP fought a mind controlled bloodlusted Sue Storm to a draw. Rachel's TK is FAR superior to Jean's AND Rachel has TP (which Jean didn't during that era).

riv6672 Senior Member

Originally posted by StyleTime
Yes, Rachel is Prestige.

Ironically, she thinks the X-Jet needs a name change...

https://postimg.org/image/m8db3ukgd/


haha, yeah i caught that! 😂

StyleTime Senior Member

Weird fight with morals off. This could conceivably be a quick draw or they might even kill each other at the same time.

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

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traditionally, quickdraws go to the tp specialists though. rachel likely has the better reaction feats. maybe?

StyleTime Senior Member

Maybe. Most of her post-Phoenix feats are showings of power rather than speed. That said, Rachel did scan the planet pretty quickly, categorizing people by their current activity(3,000,000 sleeping, 79,000 dancing, etc). Sifting through all that information over a couple of sentences with Storm implies greatly enhanced perceptual speeds, but I don't know if it'd translate to combat thanks to comic logic.

We could discuss the speed of telepathy vs force fields, but I'm guessing Sue has some "thought equals action" feats lying around somewhere.

I'll leave it at a 5/5 either way. Maybe I'm being too forgiving with Sue though.

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i think it comes down to who acts first. either sue incapacitates rachel by opening a massive bubble her brain, or rachel uses her tp to incapcitate sue.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by leonidas
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traditionally, quickdraws go to the tp specialists though. rachel likely has the better reaction feats. maybe?


I could see that seeing as how MOST Psi's have enhanced reactions, but against anyone WITHOUT enhanced reactions(even Rach if we're not giving her the benefit of a doubt just for being a Psi) I'd credit to Sue with most quickdraw scenereos. That's based on no particular feet from her though, just simple logic. She's been playing the game longer than virtually any human and she seems to frequently be able to erect shields to defend her teammates even when suprised so I give her quite a bit of credit when comparing her reactions against other "human" minds.

Glorificus Senior Member

Quick draw.

Either Rachel shuts off Sue's mind first, or Sue explodes a forcefield inside of Rachel's skull first.