Originally posted by carthage
Hundreds of billions of galaxies, 100 billion (likely more) stars in the Milky way, and likely innumerable planets as well. I have a really shit understanding of light years and the mathematical aspects of it, but it just seems like the only thing separating us from another civilization is the distance between our Solar system and the nearest star. I think that there is something out there but we'll likely never find them in this millennia unless we develop some sort of technology for interstellar travel. Babysteps!
Why do you PRESUME that there is another civilization?
Where do these UNFOUNDED, UNPROVEN ASSUMPTIONS come from?
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Ah, there's your proof. The Ultimate Source of Truth doesn't mention it, so it must not be a thing. Well, there's no arguing with that. Except the Bible also endorses slavery and genocide, so I guess we should still be doing that, eh JesusLovesYou? How many slaves do you own and how do you treat them?
Uh, what's your stance on pro-life? Do YOU agree that a woman has a RIGHT to abort her embryo? If so, there's no difference between that and genocide, because it happens on a wide-scale.
You do not understand what kind of era people lived in during the events recorded in the Bible. Indentured servitude was a common, normal way of life.
Originally posted by JesusLovesYou
You are in denial.I have supported my faith tirelessly, but you just refuse to study my evidence.
That is why it's faith, because there is no proof. It's belief without evidence. Isn't that what makes Christianity what it is... after all, if there was proof then you wouldn't be so pious for believing it now would you? Faith, according to you, is a virtue.
Hebrews 11:1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Of course I feel otherwise.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jun/20/we-are-not-alone-nasa-telescope-finds-10-earth-like-planetsHuh, ain't science neat.
There's STILL NO PROOF of ANY other life, on any other planet, so why are you so gleeful?
Originally posted by Beniboybling
😆Funny, the enin guy said the same thing about his book, are you sure you're not a clone?
Well, you guys talk more about SCIENCE than you do anything else (almost as if it is your god), that's why I came to that conclusion.
The Quran MENTIONS the Bible. But the Bible NEVER mentions the Quran.
Click http://crossexamined.org/simple-reason-quran-word-god/
Originally posted by JesusLovesYouBecause scientists are using amazing technology to explore our universe, and have discovered many Earth-like planets potentially capable of sustaining life?
There's STILL NO PROOF of ANY other life, on any other planet, so why are you so gleeful?
You don't find that the least bit in intriguing?
But yeah, kinda sad that you would close your mind to the possibility of life outside our solar system when folks are making discoveries like this.
Originally posted by JesusLovesYouDarling, science isn't an entity. It's a process in which we employ evidence and reason to understand our universe, therefore of course when talking about the nature of the universe, we talk about science.
Well, you guys talk more about SCIENCE than you do anything else (almost as if it is your god), that's why I came to that conclusion.
The Quran MENTIONS the Bible. But the Bible NEVER mentions the Quran.If it's not the word of God, why has it got scientific truths in it then. 🙁Click http://crossexamined.org/simple-reason-quran-word-god/
Originally posted by Patient_LeechYou and me both know we all come from the black goo bro.
So admitting that the Universe and life within it is so improbable there are much better conceptions of the universe than the ceramic Creator model of the universe as indicated in the Bible. Universe as "drama" or "organism" is much more interesting because it fits better with new information. We were no more "created" than a plant is "created" when a seed is planted into the soil and watered. To say we are "grown" or "developed" makes more sense.The unwarranted jump that religious fundamentalists make is saying, "Oh, well the Universe is just so well ordered and amazing, it must be the Bible and Jesus because it makes me feel warm and fuzzy!" Well, people within all other religions (and even no religion) around the world feel warm and fuzzy too, so that is proof that there is something deeper at work.
@JesusLovesYou was Jesus an engineer?
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Lol, the proof is overwhelming from multiple disciplines and Darwin's original understanding has continued to be confirmed the more that is discovered. And in fact, no evidence has been revealed that contradicts it. Believe it or not, the Bible's account of creation has not held up to scrutiny and even in court it collapsed without sufficient evidence. Why you deny this I don't know. It's simple fact.Lol, so why doesn't he? He is either impotent or evil. So why call him God?
There is NO overwhelming proof from multiple disciplines.
Darwin’s original understanding has been proven wrong, but that’s ALL atheists believe they have, so they CLING to it like it is a matter of life and death.
The Bible will NEVER be held up to the scrutiny of an ATHEIST. What about this don’t you understand?
Besides, the Bible was not written for unbelievers. It is a SPIRITUAL BOOK, with SPIRITUAL TRUTH, and SPIRITUAL REVELATION. A person who is NOT born again CANNOT understand the Bible. It is foolishness to him/her.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1228/1228-h/1228-h.htmGive it a read. 👆
Your link doesn't work.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Darling, science isn't an entity. It's a process in which we employ evidence and reason to understand our universe, therefore of course when talking about the nature of the universe, we talk about science.If it's not the word of God, why has it got scientific truths in it then. 🙁
I know that science is not an entity.
However, science does NOT contradict the Bible. Science and the Bible have NEVER been mutually exclusive. Let that sink in.
If it were not for God's LOGICAL LAWS, science would NOT even be POSSIBLE. Let that sink in.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Darling, science isn't an entity. It's a process in which we employ evidence and reason to understand our universe, therefore of course when talking about the nature of the universe, we talk about science.
This.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
You and me both know we all come from the black goo bro.
👆
Originally posted by JesusLovesYou
There is NO overwhelming proof from multiple disciplines.Darwin’s original understanding has been proven wrong, but that’s ALL atheists believe they have, so they CLING to it like it is a matter of life and death.
And we're done here... lol 😂
Originally posted by JesusLovesYou
The constants that make life POSSIBLE in this universe are over many, so your arithmetic is incorrect.This is just 15: http://www.inplainsite.org/html/anthropic_principles.html
Originally posted by JesusLovesYou
Besides, the Bible was not written for unbelievers. It is a SPIRITUAL BOOK, with SPIRITUAL TRUTH, and SPIRITUAL REVELATION. A person who is NOT born again CANNOT understand the Bible. It is foolishness to him/her.
Then it also cannot serve as evidence for an unbeliever, which makes it useless for apologetics.
This also begs the question of how one could possibly convert to Christianity, if the evidence for Christianity does not become evidence until after he has converted.
Nice circular reasoning.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Then it also cannot serve as evidence for an unbeliever, which makes it useless for apologetics.This also begs the question of how one could possibly convert to Christianity, if the evidence for Christianity does not become evidence until after he has converted.
Nice circular reasoning.
The logic of Christianity...